What’s the best way to discourage smoking?

Test for smoking/tobacco use and refuse treatment under all state & federal healthcare programs for anyone testing positive for any disorder or illness attributable to tobacco use.

There simply is no way to disallow humans from making self-destructive decisions. None!

Education and taxation.

Those who smoke cigarettes are addicted to nicotine. Addictions are a hard thing to get get rid of. I don’t know that it is wise to penalize people who have “smoking-related” illnesses unless their doctors can prove that, yes because this person smokes, they have this illness. There are people who develop diseases who never smoke a day in their life (could be attributed to genes and second-hand smoke–not their fault).

I believe education is a great tool for anything, but education on the negative impact of smoking is all around us and constantly around us. However, making a dent in the wallet of a smoker is probably a route I would take. I’m in favor of increasing taxes (or fees as some like to call it) on cigarettes.

I tell people to keep smoking, there is a politician with a spending habit that needs a fix!

I tell them to light’m up! We need the tax revenue.

I tell them they must be rich, because I can’t afford to smoke1

I tell the kids that they need to smoke because schools need the tax dollars!

When the Obama Regime raised cig taxes in early 2009, I told kids to keep smoking because Obama needed the money.

Since Obama raised the taxes on cigars I have not bought one since, I have been given a few, but never bought one. So I guess raising the tax on them worked for me.

Smoking taxes are so regressive, but the big spenders need their money.

I agree with an earlier comment, there are a lot more things that are bad for us than smoking. If you want to argue that smokers should be denied medical treatment for the illness that result, then people who drink alcohol, drink too much caffeine, and eat too many cheeseburgers should also be shunned from the medical industry. Its a bad argument and I can’t understand why so much focus is put on smoking when other “vices” cause much more cumulative damage to the body.

I don’t smoke and never plan to, but I know plenty of people who have quit smoking and all decided to because they decided it wasn’t worth the risk to their health. It is ultimately a personal choice to quit and like all other addictive substances, a person will not quit until they have decided they are ready. Same goes for if someone decides to cut back on drinking because they don’t want to kill their liver, or cut back on energy drinks because they are tired of the ups and downs, or cut back on fast food because they have reached an unhealthy weight- its all about personal choice and readiness

I think the best way to discourage smoking is to set a good example for your children. It starts young. If you can convince your children that it’s an awful habit that they should never start, you have a good chance of preventing a life long addiction.

My wife and I have never smoked and we tried the setting a good example thing. Then my eldest daughter picked up the habit from her friends. Now she has a daughter and we keep pointing to the baby as a deterrent for smoking. At least she smokes outside the house. Please stay tuned, it might work (maybe).

Govt subsidies of tobacco production in 2009 were over $209 million.

It’s a bit confusing to see a herb that does so much damage to society remain popular, sociable and legal. Whilst at the same time their other favorite herb is wrongly demonized and criminal despite it’s very healthful benefits. The hypocrisy is hard to miss.

Solution: Give the smokers better options than just cancer.

To help more Minnesotans quit smoking, tobacco policies such as higher prices should be considered. According to the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, a $1.50 per pack increase is estimated to save 61,700 Minnesota kids from becoming addicted adult smokers and would help 28,100 adult smokers quit. Keeping people from starting to smoke combined with encouraging others to quit will do wonders for saving the more than 5,100 Minnesotans who die each year from smoking and the more than $3 billion a year that Minnesotans pay in tobacco-related health care costs. QUITPLAN® Services, an evidence-based cessation program, offers free stop-smoking plans and counseling to all Minnesotans.

Let’s take the opportunity to reframe the question. In a free society, is it the government’s responsibility to to spend tax payer dollars when smoking is an individual choice decsion. Yes, smokers should take responsibility for their decisions! Finally, individual choice, in a free socieity is what government, at all levels, should drive towards.

First things first.

I don’t smoke. Never have.

My mother died from complications of smoking.

My grandfather died of throat cancer from

smoking. He had a trac.

The graphic photos: the image of the man smoking via his trac brought back memories. My Grandfather smoked that way.

The graphic images might deter a few people. But for every craft there is a craft. People will simply remove their cigs from the package. Start watching for fun little boxes you can put your cigs in at craft fairs; for the ladies anyway.

The dead guy with the incision on his chest does not look dead to me. He still looks warm. I say my mother when she died. Her mouth was agape, her skin lost its color and her ears turned blue.

Got to run now.

As long as tobacco exists, people will smoke it. This has been the case since it’s “discovery” by Columbus and used by island natives for who knows how long before that.

Anyone who says smoking is a moral sin only has to look in the mirror and ask, “am I a good person?” I hope the answer is no. To deny health care to smokers to some is a solution. OK, should we also deny AIDS treatment because those who get AIDS are homosexuals or IV drug users? Should we deny healthcare for alcohol-related illness. With our health “care” system as it is, we already discriminate based on income and with that, race. Do we now add insult to injury by deciding if someone’s disease was based on their morals? If so let’s make a list. No healthcare for you if…

You smoke

You drink

You are sexually active outside the bonds marriage

between one man and one woman

You are fat

You eat at McDonald’s

You don’t exercise

You have an accident as a result of DWI

You have an accident because you drive poorly

You use drugs

You ____________ (fill in the blank)

So when you go to the doctor’s or the hospital, along with all the other paperwork you have to fill out before you are treated, let’s add another ten pages of moral sins that caused your problem. Then if any one is checked, you can be denied care.

And you die.

Raise the price! $1.50 increase in tobacco products will help prevent more than 61,000 kids from ever starting smoking (that’s equivalent to every 8th grader in MN). Even if you don’t smoke, you and every man, woman, and child pays $554 each year for smoking related expenditures. Raising the price of tobacco products would increase state revenue by $140 million annually AND save more than $1 billion in health care costs.

Adding these warning labels should help discourage smoking. But making cigarettes more expensive is a proven tactic that hits home much harder than pictures. More expensive cigarettes = less tobacco users.

The right to spray the smokers and extinguish their smoke thing at onset. This would mean the right to conceal and carry squirt guns, water bottles, buckets of water and/or garden hoses (if available and actually most desireable for best effects.)

Nothing is more effective, though, than having your little 3 to 4 year old ECFE student sitting in the back seat and reminding the driver that smoking is child abuse. 😉

I just had an idea that’s only fair. If they have to put these gruesome pictures on cigarette packs they probably should put pictures of dead soldiers on SUV and on billboards all along the interstates. Our young people are dying do keep the oil supplies flowing so fat and lazy people can drive their gas guzzling SUVs over the speed limit every day.

The graphics and heath message on cigarette packages and advertising is a great step forward to combat the tobacco industry and their marketing tactics. They are educational and take up 50% of the package ad space. The current health warning on the package hasn’t changed in 25 years!

There are three proven methods for preventing kids from starting and helping people quit:

1. Provide FREE smoking cessation help (we do).

2. Keep restaurants and bars smoke free (we have).

3. Significantly increase the tobacco tax (we haven’t done this since 2005).

As a former smoker, I wish that I had never started. Saying “I wish I could quit” wasn’t really accurate. I didn’t WANT to quit smoking, I was addicted, I loved smoking.

But I wish that I had never started; that it wasn’t okay to smoke indoors, that as a high school/college student that cigarettes were too expensive; or if I didn’t believe the marketing of the tobacco industry. Ugg.

Encouragement from family, friends, co-workers, nicotine replacement therapy, smoke-free bars and restaurants, and the increase in the price is what helped me quit. It wasn’t just one thing. I have always envied those who say, “I quit cold turkey,” or “Quitting wasn’t a big deal, it’s easy.” Quitting was hard for me, at times I thought impossible. Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances known to humans; couple that with the physical habit of raising a cigarette to your mouth around 200 times a day for years. It’s amazing anyone is able to quit. After all, we are creatures of habit.

To help people quit and to keep kids from starting, it’s not just one simple “fix all” strategy. It requires multiple strategies all working together. We have 2 out of 3… Now it’s time to raise the tobacco tax.

As a grade school-aged child, my mother and father were heavy smokers. In private, my mother told me it was ok if I wanted to smoke AS LONG AS I DID IT IN FRONT OF HER. I could never get up the courage to smoke a cigarette, Deep down, I think I knew it would hurt her too much.

You just had a comment by a woman who said her daughter had told her to smoke in front of the daughter, and that prompted her to quit. The reverse, but the same outcome.

In addition to being an ex-smoker, I see a lot of smokers who are trying to quit every day. The interesting thing about cigarettes is they can become a close friend especially when times are tough. If a person looses a job for instance, they smoke even more or they return to the habit they had once quit. It does not make sense that someone who just lost their income would want to create a $6.00 per day expense, but that is frequently what happens.

When a person is forced to see the terrible effects of tobacco every time they pull out their pack of cigarettes, it will only make them more feel more nervous, which will create a desire to light up another one. Additionally, eventually, like everything else, they will ignore the pictures in the same way they learned to ignore the warnings that have been printed on the packaging for decades now.

I wish I had the answer, but I doubt the pictures will have much effect.

Long term, probably the best thing we can do to discourage smoking is to continue to educate kids and make the habit very uncool. The trick is to eventually make smoking/chewing something that teenagers see as being a disgusting habit that they don’t want any part of.

If we can stop them at that age it becomes more and more unlikely they will ever start in the first place.

Al was right at 7:19 this morning. Raising tobacco taxes only works up to a point. If the tax gets too high, it will create a black market and encourage organized crime.

I lived with a parent who smoked constantly.

This caused me to form a allergy to cigarette smoke, and that caused me to be sick a lot as a kid. But being home sick was not any easier, since I would be home with the same parent.

This has cause life long problems for me and I am not even the one who smoked. Those who think smoking only hurts themselves are absolute morons….

And its not a ‘individual right’ thing, just as suicide and murder are not rights….

I have seem many who are thick headed about it. Which only proves even more how addicting it is to the user. They make excuses all the time…

And what is sad is EVERYONE pays the higher costs of health care for them…. Everyone.

There is no easy answer, and even the changes to the packaging is not enough.

Ad micro tasers at the smoking end will not deter them. But still this is a battle worth fighting for, even if its trying to save them from their own enslavement to the stupid sticks.

Maybe kill them off early so its not a prolonged thing? (joking of course.)

@ Debra

Relating to that comment, should insurance companies also reduce or refuse coverage for smokers, what about obese people or those who drink?

The fact is the insurance industry already denies coverage based on their ability to make a profit at the peril of the patient whether they smoke or not!

And no, in spite of wishful thinking of a tobacco-free utopia, rates would not go down. Case in point. At my last employer, the difference in monthly insurance premium for smokers vs. non-smokers was a whopping $20 of a $250 per month premium. Big deal! So where is the savings for not smoking????

@ Vivian

But a very tiny drop in the bucket when it comes to the cost of health insurance. My point was that if smoking really does increase the cost of health care as the anti-smokers claim, one would think non-smokers would pay say 50% less in their premiums?

@CF

//My point was that if smoking really does increase the cost of health care as the anti-smokers claim, one would think non-smokers would pay say 50% less in their premiums?

or the ultimate credits in not smoking are the benefits of better health.

@ Adam

Well, cigarettes are not a segment of society, but those that use them are. And they are a legal product. Now if you want to go down the road of social engineering through taxation, then…

Should a Big Mac with fries and a pop cost $15?

Should there be a $50 cable tax because people watch too much TV and not exercise? Should license tabs on a car have a “not walking fee”? Should salt be taxed per ounce or oil and shortening be taxed as well?

The only ones who would benefit from draconian cigarette taxes are organized crime rings and gangs. As well as hostile countries like North Korea or terrorist groups. Ultimately higher cigarette taxes would be offset by increases in expenditures for criminal justice and incarceration. In case you forgot, the last time the cigarette tax was increased, there was also a spike in retail cigarette theft!

Um, Michell. I don’t mean to embarrass you in public or anything, but your CAPS-LOCK is showing.

It didn’t work, Michell. When you type in all caps, it comes across as an angry rant and actually invites people to ignore you.

I love your blog 🙂