If the state government shuts down, who will you hold responsible?

A potential state government shutdown is now just two days away. The Democratic governor and Republican leaders in the Legislature blame each other for the lack of a budget deal. Today’s Question: If the state government shuts down, who will you hold responsible?

  • Luke Van Santen

    95% Republican fault for wasting entire session on peripheral issues, 5% Dayton fault for not leading everyone back to the path to getting important things done on time.

  • Hiram

    The people who are responsible for state government are our elected officials, that is, the governor and the legislature. Now who I will blame is a different question, also one with a lot of interest.

  • Duane

    I would place the blame on the Democratic Governor. The Legislature passed a balanced budget that reflected a 6% increase in funding, which was more than what the Republicans campaigned on; but he vetoed it. In 2005 we had a similar impasse, but Gov. Pawlenty approve the one he could and worked with the Legislature to correct the one that they disagreed on. That was leadership.

  • I blame Webster and his damn dictionary for defining the word ‘compromise’ as one person actually trying and the others just pretending to try but not really giving anything up.

    Was it Webster?

    Oh wait…nevermind.

  • Frustrated

    Republicans. It’s going to take movement from both sides. They are still on their original total dollar number and that is wrong.

    Republicans. They didn’t get their work done and pass most of the budget bills they needed to before the end of the session.

    Republicans. I believe they WANTED to shut the state government down so they could show their base how tough they are on “holding the line on spending.”

    Republicans. They put a higher priority on the social side of their agenda than worrying about the fiscal policy.

  • Marcus

    The wealthy. They have so skillfully manipulated the legislators to ensure that they can selfishly retain their greedy hoards.

  • M.Schram

    Republicans. Just raise the taxes. I’m willing to pay more taxes and the top earners should pay their fair share.

  • Sara

    I will blame the Republicans for the years of “government is bad” messaging. I always thought we, the people, are the government.

    On the upside, if there is a shutdown, maybe all the folks buying the government is bad message will realize how much we rely on that government (or should I say each other).

  • Clark

    Multi millionaire, trust fund baby, never had to work an honest day in his life Gov Mark Dayton. Clueless far left radical free loading democrats still don’t understand we have a spending problem. What is happening in Greece is is a crystal ball into our future if spending is not controlled. There is no such thing as a free lunch, someone, somewhere is paying the bill.

  • Jerry Stiff


  • John Robertson

    Pawlenty. His smoke & mirrors budget balancing has created a state of social & moral bankrupcy in MN. His disciples continue to believe that smoke and mirrors budgeting is sustainable but his 6 billion budget deficit is a little difficult to overcome since most of the aid funds have already been spent balancing past budgets.

  • Tim

    The blame for this government shutdown, should it occur, lies entirely with the Republicans. There is part of a national Republican effort to negotiate only on the spending side of state and national budgets, and not even consider enhancing the revenue or tax side of government budgets. Our state Republican leaders said many times during the session that they would not compromise with the Governor regarding the raising of any taxes. Last week Eric Cantor and other Republican leaders walked out of budget talks with VP Joe Biden because they refused to discuss increasing taxes or cutting tax loopholes. Until moderate voices begin to be heard in the Republican camp, we will continue their irresponsible game of “chicken” at both the state and federal budget talks.

  • nathaniel Fuller

    Republicans. They refuse the idea of shared sacrifice. They hold the government and public hostage in order to increase the share of the wealth for the wealthiest at the expense of our neediest and weakest. That is not public service.

  • Kurt Rusterholz

    The Republican legislators, characterized by ignorance, arrogance, rigid ideology, fiscal stupidity, persistent use of half-truth, and a lack of compassion,- are totally responsible.

  • John O.

    Us. We elected these people.

  • Eric

    I hold responsible all who have pandered to Minnesota voters by irresponsibly cutting revenue when times were good, bad or indifferent. At the end of the Carlson administration, the state had a surplus, so Governor Ventura (with help from the legislature) cut each of us a check. Does anyone remember where that check went? After Ventura, came Pawlenty with his no tax pledge and deferred payment of expenses. Now we are reaping the reward for our greed and foolishness, and the Republicans in the legislature refuse to raise revenue to cover expenses. Very few of the people in office right now caused the showdown, but those on the tax cutting side of the equation are trying to perpetuate the damage, so they take their place in the hall of blame.

  • Ben

    The math is simple. The Republicans are willing to protect the richest 2% of the state (most of whom are NOT small business owners) at the expense of the other 98%. That’s a morally bankrupt position and one that the majority of Minnesotan’s do not support. We’ve never cut our way to greatness. Exhibit A: Tim Pawlenty.

  • Mike

    Harry J. Anslinger

  • Steve D

    The Republicans of course!!!!!

  • Jack

    William Randolph Hearst

  • Peter

    Tim Pawlenty.

  • Nick

    That Mark Dayton and the MN GOP SERIOUSLY refer to the “cone of silence” in declining to discuss their private negotiations tells you everything you need to know (the cone is a running gag from the 60s TV show “Get Smart,” check wikipedia). To clarify: people inside the cone can’t hear each other, but what they say is clearly broadcast to those meant to be kept in the dark. The cone doesn’t work. This is the kind of gaffe that’s tailor made for the Daily Show. Come on, MPR.

  • Vanessa

    Those Repugnant-c*nts.

  • Peg Meyer

    House and Senate Republicans. They’ve painted themselves into a corner, and understand so little about the role and costs of state government that they’re unwilling to transcend, which is the only way out of the corner. They refer to all this problem-solving that went on around their kitchen tables… Didn’t their families teach them to consider everyone’s ideas and needs? How about a temporary tax increase on high-earners, fixed to a sliding scale, so if the state’s rainy day fund is in good shape, the tax rate for that year goes down. There have to be a dozen other solutions that don’t hurt the people who aren’t on that infamous level playing field.

  • Lisa Renee

    100% of those who chose to ignore the needs of the poor and the middle class who voted for all these Republicans in the Legislature. None of the “people” who continue to insist on “no new taxes” just do not seem to understand how this stance forces municipalities to raise property taxes to make up for funds not created by increased revenues. Simply cutting and cutting and cutting services does not solve the problem. Even though Governor Dayton’s stance is just as stubborn as the Legislature, at least he recognizes that there has to be increased revenues as well as cutting of services.

  • Jerry

    Republican leaders in the Legislature should blame each other, then get on with it, repent, rethink and rectify. Work with the Governor and the people. There are solutions to be found.

  • patty

    i hold all of them responsible, ALL OF YOU! I will be voting for the other guy this next election. There is always room for compromise after all you represent all the people of minnesota, not just the people who believe in your political ideology.

    You should all be fired and in the private sector probably would be

  • uptownZombie

    I will hold the republican majority responsible. The democratic leaders appear to have compromised way too often, and too much considering the “absolutely no compromise” feeling from their peers. The republican leadership’s inability to compromise should speak volumes to everyone out there.

    This has been the absolute worst session i have witnessed since moving to Minnesota, and it’s a complete embarrassment to our state and people.

  • Jean

    Republicans. Raise taxes & start with more income tax on the rich.

  • Rich in Duluth

    I hold responsible the conservative leaders in this state and country who have, for decades, promoted cynicism about and disrespect for government.

    I think they are all about defunding government, which naturally leads to ineffective government and supports their cynicism. They have demonized paying taxes when sufficient tax money is the only way we can have effective government.

  • Carrie

    I blame those in Minnesota who voted for a Republican controlled legislature. Happy now?

  • Cathleen Fuller

    The Republicans…why is it that shared sacrifice applies only to the poor and middle class? Oh right the corporations and the rich have bought and paid for their elections so they would not have to pay their fair share. I remember a Minnesota that had progressive thinkers and legislators and some of them were Republicans! They felt it was the state’s responsibility to care for our most vulnerable citizens…it’s what good people do. I miss those days.

  • DNA

    The Republican leaders in the Legislature and the people who voted for them are most responsible (or would it be irresponsible?).

  • Lou

    Every member of the state legislature that made a pledge not to raise taxes as part of their campaign rhetoric. Legislators and governors need to have flexibility in their negotiations and once this pledge is made, that flexibility is gone.

  • todd

    Those who didn’t vote for Tom Horner, whose middle-of-the-road policies would have broken through the logjam.

  • Joyce

    I blame the legislature. Dogmatic and unwilling to find compromise to save services to Minnesotans.

  • Amy S.

    I think both the governor and Republican leadership should have done their jobs during the legislative session, but I hold most blame with the Republicans because they passed a completely partisan budget that they knew would be vetoed by the governor. I think the Republicans are playing party politics and that’s why they refuse to compromise, which is going to cost the state a fortune and put too many people out of work. This is really disappointing because they ran on creating more jobs and instead the Republicans are responsible for 30,000+ Minnesotans getting layoff notices. One time fixes are not going to fix the state deficit, revenue needs to be raised somewhere and frankly I’m tired of having my property taxes go up year after year. Dayton supports cutting spending as well as raising revenue and I think this is the way we need to go to keep Minnesota a great place to live and work.

  • Dee

    This question invites partisan blame and fingerpointing. What happened to MPR’s objective of ‘no rant?’ This is not the content I seek when I listen to public radio.

  • bsimon

    Gov Pawlenty for creating this mess via 8 years of budget gimmicks, rather than addressing the systemic problems with the budget & the Legislature for foolishly refusing to use a critical tool for balancing the budget – revenue.

  • Felix Hsu

    The Governor is to blame – he did not win as a mandate, he won because the Republicans split their vote, and he barely won. People have gotten fed up with a regular tax increases and even higher increases in govt spending which are leading to ever increasing deficits. There is a reason that people voted for Republicans in the last election, and why the tea party is resonating, to the dismay of much of the media. Neither party is doing it’s job, but people are sending a message that govt needs to live within its means. People can’t just raise their salaries because they don’t want to have to make hard choices in spending – govt needs to start facing this reality also.

    I find it interesting that people say the the “rich” need to pay their fair share when 45% of people pay no tax at all. The “rich” are already subsidizing these 45% who, by the way, use more govt services than the “rich”. I don’t disagree that people who make more money should pay more taxes, but this can also be accomplished with a flat tax. In addition, if this is a democracy, every person should pay taxes – no exceptions even if the person pays just $1. It is easy to vote for tax increases if you are not paying any taxes.

    Finally, Govt needs to be honest about its budget. They start each year with a zero based budget, and then talk about the cuts they had to make from this ideal budget – that’s how you get discussion about the budget being 30-40% less that what the school boards wanted. They should do what business does, and let voters know each year how much the budget is increasing from the prior year. People would get a better view of what is really happening with govt spending, and understand how they are being manipulated with today’s discussion of budgets. It’s creates a completely different perspective when people hear that the school budget went up 4% vs. last year vs. the budget was 30% less than the ideal budget, especially for people who have had their pay increases downsized or are getting no pay increases at all.

  • David L.

    I blame the Republican-controlled Legislature. The Republicans’ near-total unwillingness to compromise on taxes for the rich is what has brought us here and stands in stark contrast to Gov. Dayton’s principled but flexible stand.

  • Rich


  • Larry M.

    Republicans. The no new taxes pledge has pushed this budget to its limits every year leading to deficits. It is a failed policy that is bad for the state and didn’t do anything to fix structural or revenue issues. Policy by bumper sticker is usually a disaster and that’s true here.

  • Laura Ross

    Clark, the trust-find baby is all the more to be admired for his dedication to the poor and most easily ignored, and he has worked many, many years,including as a teacher in poor school districts.

    I blame the Republicans for cow-towing to the corporations and rich who buy their votes at the expense of most everything this state used to stand for – good, well-funded schools (including the U of M), healthy citizens, good services and attention to the less fortunate. I hope Mark Dayton can stand strong against allowing them to kill more programs when simply taxing those most able to help would alleviate the worst of the pain – and I am one of those who will pay more.

  • Kevin

    Primarily the electorate. Republicans claim they were elected to not raise taxes, while Dayton was elected to do just that. Now, who do you think people knew better going into the election? Was it Dayton who was everywhere media-wise, or your local congress members who maybe sent out a flyer or two that people maybe glanced at?

    This is overgeneralized of course. So, I suppose next are republicans, who think the electorate knew what they were getting into.

  • Zeke

    We deserve the politicians we voted for !

    I don’t wanna pay taxes because I think they go to illegal immigrants and poor minorities and certainly they go to people other than me, even if I collect Medicare and Social Security and my state takes in loads more money than it sends to Washington. It means “I want mine” and “I got mine.” That’s what the Tea Party is really about, a revival of the “Don’t Tread on Me” flag means other people got more than me, other people want what I have, keep your hands off me. It’s not a return to American values; it negates them. It negates the idea that this is a country. We’re only in this together in war so let’s fund the military and praise say, “Thank you for your service” to every soldier and forget about the rest of it.

  • Colleen

    Any voter that stayed home during the midterm elections. Just say to yourself, never again.

  • Stephen Monson Geerts

    Definitely the Republicans!

    They are the ones who got us into this mess in the first place! Two thirds of the nation’s debt is the result of Regan and the two Bushes spending on credit! The buying power of the middle class is the engine of our society, unfortunately it is now tapped-out, thanks to a freeze in wages and big business out-sourcing and locating offshore to avoid taxation. There has been no shared sacrifice, all the burden has been on the poor and middle class. It is time for everyone in this country (state) to pony-up, or there will be no U.S.A. The Republicans are unwilling to compromise – greed will eventually become the demise of our society. We must move forward as one – no society is better than its worst-off citizens, and we are bankrupt!

  • Georgia

    I blame the Republicans. Dayton compromised many weeks ago. They are unwilling to budge in giving advantages to big business and the rich. They can rant about taxes all they want, but as sure as I’m sitting here my taxes will go up substantially because of them. The above assessment by Luke is very astute.

  • Philip

    Bush – it’s his fault.

  • Tricia M.

    The Republicans and the people who voted for them.

    The majority of Minnesotans want a tax increase on the wealthiest 2%. Why are the Republicans refusing to consider this? I am sick of redistribution of wealth upward: the lower and middle classes are squeezed to death so politicians can protect their corporate benefactors.

    I applaud Governor Dayton for standing strong on his committment to raise taxes. Please don’t back down.

    The Republicans want less government? Fine. Shut down the hospitals, the police, and everything else government provides. Just watch out for the pitchforks that will soon be headed your way.

  • Robin

    I blame the voters first and the Republicans second. We need to stop electing people who represent the far right and far left fringes of the political parties. (The caucus system doesn’t help with this.) Moderates from both parties are leaving in droves at all levels of government and we are left with people who think that governing means holding on blindly to this pledge or that one. This state is very divided and compromise is essential. The Republican leadership hasn’t compromised at all. They shouldn’t be paid for this session – they did nothing.

  • Johnny Sly

    We are all to blame. We look at this circus as a contest between two parties, two ideologies, with one winner and one looser. We need to refocus on whether the people of Minnesota win or loose outside of party ideology.

    But if I had to name one person to blame, I would blame Rep Jim Abeler.

  • Steve the Cynic

    Everyone who believed the right-wing bovine feces and voted accordingly in the last election.

    If left-wing bovine feces were getting any traction these days, I would blame people who believed that, too, but the left has been in decline for more than three decades now, to the point where today’s “left-wing” Democrats are to the right of where right-wing Republicans used to be. Reagan was willing to raise taxes when he realized they had been cut too much. Nixon thought nationalized health insurance was a good idea. Moderate Democrats used to talk about “social justice,” but now they all avoid such terminology like the plague.

    We need to move back to the center and avoid both ditches.

  • David

    To be honest, I find this discussion really unhelpful. The fact that MPR is randomly reading anonymous posts as “news” is embarrassing. How does reading the anonymous posts of vitriolic name callers over the airwaves contribute to the public’s understanding of this issue? What happened to journalistic integrity, MPR? If this type of sensationalist, pandering “reporting” continues on Morning Edition, I will gladly find another outlet for my membership dollars.

  • Dan

    The Republican ayatollahs who have spent decades breeding their politicians to confuse compromise with betrayal. Remember, this is the group that refused to endorse sitting Republican governor Arne Carlson for re-election because he wasn’t pure enough for them. These folks aren’t interested in governance, they’re interested in spreading fundamentalism and they’ve learned how to game the system to promote their agenda.

  • George

    Repubs who refuse to compromise for the benefit of the people of MN. This is part of an ideological campaign to destroy government being waged across the country by wealthy corporations and individuals for their own benefit.

  • Dakota

    Republican legislators first, Pawlenty second, selfish, uninformed voters third.

    Also Carrie, I just read all of these comments. You give one comment from each side, which gives the appearance that there is equal support for both sides. This is a dangerous misrepresentation.

    It would be better to share the stark difference here. Many more people blame the Republicans and Governor Pawlenty, while just a couple Governor Dayton. That should also be said on the air. This should not be represented equally. The majority of commentators want the Republicans to compromise and get rid of their “no new taxes” stance.

  • sharon

    I blame the Republican leadership, the newly elected far right fringe of their party and the party leadership as well as those who blindly voted for them. For a party dominated by business owners, they are acting like petulant children who are unwilling to compromise after mis-managing the past session. May they reap the outrage of their constituents when, among other gov. functions, road construction halts, licenses can’t be renewed and new businesses are unable to get the necessary permits to move forward. The Governor has compromised enough!!

  • Jim

    Dayton – because he is supposed to lead and take us through the process. The republicans were elected for two reasons. The state wanted less government with a smaller budget and no new taxes. It appears to me that Dayton is ignoring this mandate and is stuck on a much higher budget and adding new taxes. It appears that besides not being a good leader, he also doesn’t listen very well.

  • Nancy Thomas

    Pawlenty, who wouldn’t compromise last year

    and years prior, left us us in a mess(through the guidance of Bush, who was here on many occassions prompting him.) Not to mention the mess Bush left us in……..lets

    talk about all the people who didn’t vote in the last election….probably the ones screaming the loudest…Than lets talk about the TEA PARTY…let them take some responsibility, too. I just hope that the poor of the State of MN. don’t have to suffer the most……..that is so UNMINNESOTAN……A SHUTDOWN would

    hurt way too many people……..Let’s GET IT


  • Linda

    I will hold the Republicans responsible for a government shut down. I wll hold them responsible for a federal shut down should it go that way. How can you say everything is on the table in budget talks and then pull revenues off the table.? why can’t the top 2% tax payers take an increase -temporary increase in their tax rate to get us out of this mess and then go back to the present rate. along with the agreed to spending cuts we should be on solid ground once again.

  • cat

    All of them.

  • Tibe

    The fault is that of 2010 midterm elections voters who gave majority vote to Republicans who stand for the rich & wealthy. They care less for MIDDLE & LOW income people of MN. So we low & middle income voters should vote them out in 2012 elections to avoid Republicans’ arrogancy on every issue that affects us. I see no reason or rationale for the wealthy not to pay their FAIR SHARE OF TAXES. That is clear & simple to understand.. It all boils down to the greed of the wealthy. In these hard times; they keep us out of work & stil their profits increase which is the result of thier GREED.

  • Jeb

    I blame both sides, but I’m leaning more towards Gov. Dayton for the “most blame”.

    Things that have upset me throughout the process:

    “We have the second-highest income tax rate in the nation.” While technically true, it doesn’t give the whole picture, as our income tax tends to fund things that would otherwise be funded by property taxes (think public schools and LGA). It’s been found that our overall taxes are roughly middle-of-the-road compared to other states, once sales tax, property taxes, etc. are included.

    “The majority of Minnesotans are in favor of raising taxes on the top 2%”. I’ve heard this disputed, but even if it’s true, it kinda makes sense. 98% of the people wouldn’t be directly affected by a tax hike on the top 2%, so why would they be against it? What if you were to ask that same audience if they’d be in favor of a sales tax hike to 7.875% to help balance the budget, or remove the exemption for clothes?

    The reason I put a bit more blame on Dayton is that he wouldn’t step in and try and compromise when the GOP released their budget plan removing tax cuts on certain individuals. If nothing else, it would have been a good faith move to try and negotiate then.

  • John

    Republicans who talk about numbers instead of people. Especially Republicans who call themselves Christians but ignore the teachings of Christ. Jesus never said “blessed are the rich.” We are blessed to be a blessing.

  • Peggy Sannerud

    I blame both – anyone who can’t remember that they were elected by their friends, but gave an oath to serve us all.

    I am SO TIRED of all this partisan CRAP getting in the way of what needs to be done!

  • miriam roth

    Gov. Dayton has willingly cut spending deeply and understands the word “compromise.” But GOP legislators seem unable to look past the party line at the facts and the need to increase revenue. They continue to protect the wealthiest from paying their share which will result in even deeper cuts to the services our state must provide. Their stubborn, unrealistic and unreasonable attitude is not what Minnesotans want or need. They will be to blame for the shut down and should not be paid..they have not done their job.

  • P. Nielsen

    We are all to blame—politicians on both side and in the middle who cannot get along and act like spoiled children. They all need a trip to the woodshed for some enlightenment. And we citizens are also to blame also for being selfish, hard-hearted, and not willing to put others first. It’s me, me, me, me, me……

    In order to put the State back in the forefront again in all areas where states are tracked, it takes money and those on the right do not want to pay their fare share but are always looking for ways to shove their responsibility onto those who have little voice in the matter..

    It’s time we all took a good look in the mirror and that’ll show a person who is responsible for this state of affairs. Shame on us all!!!!!

  • Corey

    I blame MPR for asking the question itself–“Who do you blame?” This is part of the problem. Blame doesn’t solve problems. However, if one side feels the other is going to shoulder most of the blame, then there is an incentive to not solve problems. Either party would rather hurt their opponents than help the people. When the media asks the blame question, they excuse the politicians from working on solutions.

  • Sara

    The voters, the republicans, the wealthy, the lobbyists.

  • Harvey

    MPR is doing exactly what we expect them to do.

    Have open discussions about topics that affect all of us.

    I love reading both sides of the issue, but there iare more progressive issues raised because MPR listeners are more informed. They don’t buy the sound bite politics of politicians who don’t really tell you what they stand for until they are elected: aka Wisconsin Governor Walker.

    Keep up the no holds barred discussions on topics that matter, and we might get people elected next time who care about the middle class.


  • Eileen

    I am holding both side responsible. When I vote each year I expect our elected leaders will work together to get the business of the state done to the best of their ability.

  • James

    “Professional” politicians…..Especially the lawyer types.



    The Republicans

  • Richard

    I will hold the republicans responsible because they put ideology above compromise. When I urged my state legislator, Tony Cornish, to compromise with Governor Dayton, this was his e-mail reply “No, I’m not going to compromise on tax raise. He’ll have to find something else.” I was struck by the lack of civility in representative Cornish’s reply because he was unwilling or unable to address the governor by name or title.

  • Guptan K.

    Jesus, Krishna, Muhammad and Richard Dawkins!

  • Bob Alberti

    Dayton offered to go to mediation at the outset and got turned down flat. We all know who the hostage-takers are – the Tea Party radicals who have taken over the Republican party by adopting extreme and ideologically rigid positions, but who don’t appear to know the first thing about actual governance or the common good.

  • Clearly the Republicans who refuse to compromise, and who are willing to jettison services to the most fragile among us–e.g., children with cerebral palsy, autism, spina bifida, or who are victims of domestic abuse–to keep taxes from rising on the wealthiest among us. I also blame the voters, who seem to have voted for legislators without thinking through the consequences of their votes.

  • Laura


  • David Rogde

    GOP legislators will be at fault, they are trying to claim a mandate without holding both the executive and legislative branches.

  • TheColonel

    The GOP clearly is responsible for this impasse. Pawlenty refused to enhance revenues for eight years despite increased costs as the common folk dealt with the recession. Instead, he used accounting shifts to “balance” the budget and spent much of his second term running for President. Now that the GOP is in the majority in both houses, they think that they can carry on Pawlenty’s fiction for yet another fiscal cycle. State workers haven’t had a raise for six years, and operating budgets have remained flat or been cut despite increased demands for services. I am an independent voter who always tried to look at the individual candidate. This debacle has pushed me firmly into the arms of any candidate who is not a Republican. In terms of a demographic, I am a retired male on a fixed income supporting a family of four. (We had kids late in life.) The GOP needs to get off their idological pedastal and raise some taxes.

  • Jamie

    // “Either party would rather hurt their opponents than help the people.”//

    You’re absolutely wrong. Democrats and Republicans are not the same in this regard. Republicans are the ones who want to destroy any other party that gets in their way. The vast majority of Democrats are by definition in politics in order to help people (among other reasons).


    // “And we citizens are also to blame also for being selfish, hard-hearted, and not willing to put others first. It’s me, me, me, me, me…”//

    You can’t make a blanket statement like that. Not all citizens are like this. I certainly am not. Generally speaking, Democrats are not like this. Republicans, on the other hand, are very much like this, generally speaking.

    Obviously, I hold the Republican-controlled House and Senate responsible for our current situation. They want to protect fat cats at the expense of the working and middle classes and our most vulnerable citizens. All of their rhetoric about protecting so-called job creators is bull. So were their statements at the beginning of the session about “focusing like a laser” on jobs and the economy. They did the exact opposite.

  • People who say Republicans have a mandate

    are ignoring the fact that Mr. Dayton ran on what he said the State would need to be viable in future and that was to raise taxes on only the wealthy (of which he is one and thinks this is correct to do) He won this election by a majority so he has the mandate. So it is Republicans fault that they don’t want to pay their fair share.

    Also, Republicans ran on jobs and as soon as they got in they are trying to ruin jobs by their actions. Think of all the people who are out of work and what this means for their families.

    Doesn’t that matter to Republicans???? Evidently not.

  • John Vaughn

    Governor Dayton, even though I voted for him. He cannot force the legislature to pass a tax the rich bill and his all or nothing budget stance ill serves the state. The former reflects a fundemental misunderstanding and the latter is bad leadership. It has been painful for me to watch this. We deserve better.

  • Donna

    Pretty obvious it’s the legislature, The Governor doesn’t create bills, the legislature does. Even Sen. Senjem of their own party says the bills were not ready for prime time, and needed fixing. It’s the Governors job to veto bad bills that will hurt Minnesota, it’e the legislatures job to fix them so he can sign them. It’s called comprise, OK so you don’t like taxes at 2% how about 1.5 or one, compromise. So sad, worst legislature ever.

  • Barb

    The voters are responsible. Those who voted for candidates who promised lower taxes just don’t understand the connection between taxes and the public services they provide (think road repairs, public safety, etc.) They’d rather spend their money on big cars and fancy houses rather than on the common good.

  • Judith

    I blame all of us who have allowed the movement toward an ethic of Self-first and individualism and away from a commmitment to community. The GOP has created and is trying to increase an underclass and upper class with a withering middle class. Business did not create this great country, the principle of fairness and opportunity is what makes us noble.

  • Blame is the operative word and it belongs to the newly elected Republicans who don’t know the difference between campaign promises and exercising political leadership It also goes to the uninformed voters who think there are simple answers to complex problems. I’m sick of hearing about the need to ‘help small business’. The next time I have an eldery neighbor who needs Medicaid in order to get nursing home care, a relative who can’t get needed help for a mental health issue, or a disabled friend who can no longer get a PCA I ‘ll be happy to drop them off at one of our new Republican legislators home and they can pick up the slack.

  • Dana

    There is probably plenty of blame to go around. The whole process seems pretty short-sighted, but I applaud the Governor for trying to stand up for the most vulnerable of the state. I think folks in the legislature should go volunteer at a Homeless Connect program (St. Paul or Mpls) and meet the people who suffer most under a cuts-only approach to balancing the budget.

  • Joel

    They both deserve blame, but the Republicans have demonstrated less willingness to compromise. The stated increase in the budget, and the ‘largest budget in state history’ line are both misleading, and reflect more politics than leadership.

  • Paul

    Every single elected official involved in this process is FAILING the citizens of this state. For those that want to point a finger at a side, you are just not getting the big picture. A shutdown of our state government goes way, way beyond party politics, it is a simple failure of leadership. Our elected officials are charged with leading our state, they are FAILING, every one of them, if they let this happen.

    We all need to be DEMANDING better of our elected officials. Grow up and lead, stop the garbage about blame, get something done!

  • Ev

    Mr Dayton and all the MN residents who just don;t get it. We need to stop the tax and spend mentality. It has gone on way too long and has to stop sometime. Minnesotans draw the line!

  • Hans Koch

    I hold the Republicans responsible. Their pig-headed protection of the richest Minnesotans is at the expense of middle class Minnesotans like me. Every time legislators promise “no new taxes” and then cut LGA and other expenses to balance the resulting budget, my property taxes go up, and the quality of life and essential services in my community goes down.

    The extreme cuts Republicans propose in the current budget, which are worse than necessary without any revenue increase, also threaten the future prosperity of Minnesota, because I believe they are more job-killing than they claim taxes are. They drastically restrict the role good government can play in attracting job-producing, revenue-generating businesses and markets to our state by reducing to ineffectual the funding for a well-educated workforce, a healthy infrastructure, industry-creating research, and a better quality of life than the rest of the country.

    And now, in defense of their race-to-the-bottom policies, Republican legislators are willing to kill even more jobs by laying off thousands of state workers in a government shutdown, which will also cost us millions in shutdown and restart expenses, lost revenue and delayed projects.

    Governing requires balance and compromise. Governor Dayton has taken a balanced approach towards spending and revenue, and unlike Republican legislators, has compromised on BOTH positions to the half-way point. The Republicans should meet him there, and stop playing poker with our future.

  • Stephanie

    The people that didn’t vote. If everyone took their civic responsibility seriously, we’d have different representation in the house and senate. We probably wouldn’t be worried about a gov’t shut down.

  • Sean

    Both of them. If Tom Horner had won the election, we wouldn’t be facing a shutdown.

  • Emily

    I blame the GOP, we expect our kids to play nice on the playground, and punish bullying behavior, but the GOP is refusing to play nice and acting like a big bad bully. Do they remember that the also represent DFL’ers, and two parties do not work when it is my way or no way approach, lets work TOGETHER and fix this. I know the GOP says they have made concessions, and they probably have, but come on, stating I will only hit you four times instead of five is still being a bully!

  • Ed

    The Governor and every one that ignored the warning signs and voted for him anyway.

    He posted a closed sign on his Senate office and now he is getting ready to post a closed sign on the entire state.

    He showed us his complete lack of leadership when he represented us before and the voters didn’t care one whit and rewarded him with their votes. He is now placed in a position where he can do even more harm to us.

    What is that saying? Oh yeah, “You reap what you sow.”

  • Bill

    The Republicans. Painting themselves in a corner shows their lack of political skill and desire to do good for the State instead of cementing themselves in ideological mud. Dayton has shown an open mind and willingness to compromise.

  • KTFoley

    What is the best term for how this failure belongs to all the participants in the House, Senate and Governorship? Bi-partisan? To be sure. Pan-office? No doubt.

    These folks had one primary responsibility during session — the budget. They failed in regular session and they are perilously close to failing now.

    If the state shuts down I don’t want to find one single legislator in front of a microphone or camera — they should be busy doling out food aid & medical care from the porches of their houses and the trunks of their cars.

  • Gus

    The Republican legislature for sure. Politics is about compromise, and they aren’t willing to do so. Special credit (or discredit) to Tim Pawlenty for using accounting tricks to put the day of reckoning off until he was safely out of office.

  • Floyd

    I blame the Marxist, socialist, DFL Party and those Republican leaders willing to deal with them. We Republicans must stand our ground. No compromise with the Democrats and the governor. Shut the state down for the next bi-annium if that what it takes! Republicans should boycott any special session until their budget is the only one considered.

  • Carl

    I blame the Republicans, primarily. When the Governor moves 60% of the distance toward the GOP line in the sand, the GOP cannot blame him for refusing to move the last 40%.

  • Gary

    My simplest answer is anybody who didn’t vote for Tom Horner. Horner would have brought pragmatism and thoughtful reform needed to artfully tamp down republicans’ well-meaning, but extremist and poorly thought out proposals.

  • Pat R

    The Republicans for not working better with the elected Governor. He was voted in by the necessary majority, therefore his policies should prevail as the voters’ choice and be supported by the legislature. I feel like we have children on the school ground bullying each other and playing chicken with the principal.

  • Steve the Cynic

    Floyd, that comment is so ridiculously far out on there, are you sure you’re not a left-winger trying to discredit Republicans by association with such inane, extreme rhetoric?

  • Sue de Nim

    I blame Grover Norquist and his ilk.

  • Steve the Cynic

    I don’t blame Tom Horner or anyone who voted for him. Remember that he also wanted to raise taxes, although in a different way from Dayton, and he still would have had to deal with the intransigence of the Gang Of Plutocrats in the legislature.

  • Mark

    Nothing can happen until the governor calls the legislature back into session, so until and unless he does so, the governor is responsible.

  • Jamie

    //”his all or nothing budget stance “//

    John Vaughn, you are terribly misinformed. It’s not Gov. Dayton who has an all-or-nothing “budget stance.” He has made significant compromises while the Republicans have remained cemented in the same place. Republicans have, for the last 9 years, had a my-way-or-the-highway approach to legislating and governing.

  • Clark

    Floyd, you have parachuted into enemy territory after viewing the majority of the posts,but its always good to know what the enemy is thinking.

  • Alan

    I don’t believe it is a question of “who is responsible?”. Obviously, both the Republican legislators and Governor Dayton are jointly “responsible”. The more relevant question is regarding who is being the most reasonable in maintaining their position on the budget solution. In my opinion, the real culprit is devotion to the position that undercuts our collective responsibility to our less fortunate neighbors, as well as undermines our already deteriorating quality of life, all in service of protecting the top 2% from contributing their fair share.

  • annie

    First: Republican leadership for rigidly refusing to allow for the possibility of any new state revenue, which precluded any hope of a meaningful compromise solution.

    Second: Former gov. Pawlenty, for his dishonest shifts, raids and gimmicks (and a reliance on one-time federal stimulus funds) to appear to balance the budget, creating a structural deficit that can’t be solved with cuts alone.

    And finally: Voters who don’t pay enough attention before they vote. Two-thirds of voters currently support the governor’s plan to tax the top 2% to help solve the budget – but how many of them voted for Emmer, or a GOP legislator? And why???

  • H.B. Foonman

    Governor Dayton is to blame with his insistence on promoting class envy & class warfare by not recognizing that the state is already on the path of “out-of-control” spending. Maybe as a trust-fund baby, he doesn’t have to generate income for his livelihood, but the small business owners and valuable contributors to the state’s economy is where jobs and growth occur. The legislature already gave him $2B more in budget & dropped some of their tax incentive proposals. Where is Governor Dayton’s compromise? It’s clear he is perfectly happy to do nothing, let the shutdown occur, and then blame the Republicans. His motto? “Politics before Leadership.”

  • Kara Williams-Zenith

    The Republicans unwillingness to compromise. For a party who ran on an JOB Creation ticket, it is rather aburd that 30,000+ people will be applying for unemployment. It is disgusting that they agenda does not connect with ordinary MN.

  • ben

    Republican legislators AND the People who voted them into power.

  • Cynthia

    The Republican legislators. Governor Dayton has shown himself to be a reasonable man, willing to compromise and ALWAYS looking out for the best interests of the people of this state. The Republicans are inflexible and adamant, like children throwing a tantrum. Some of them may know better, but they are marching in lockstep to the beat of a drummer from outside the state. Whose interests are they serving? They are wearing blinders and ear plugs as they repeat the mantra, “No new taxes.” (We see what eight years of such limited vision has brought us to). Governor Dayton was elected on his pledge to tax the very wealthiest who at this time are paying a lower rate than the rest of us in the middle class. This is only fair, and this is what we want. The Republicans must compromise for the betterment of Minnesota. Stand your ground, Governor!!

  • ReNae Bowman

    The Republicans are to blame for any potential state shutdown for a couple of reasons, this financial mess belongs to Tim Plawenty and his manipulation of using the word fee in place of tax, taking federal (one-time) stimulus dollars and calling it a balanced budget.

    Also belongs to the Republicans because this new class of Republicans went to St. Paul with the intent of dismanteling government. The Republicans are waging class warfare with their mantra of “no new taxes” This mantra (when unpacked and looked at) is actually a way to take away basic human rights from the blue collar and the middle class groups in this state.

  • greg

    first “us” the voting public are to blame – we’ve got our …. government: of the people, by the people, for the people, and we created this situation through our collective votes. Second – the two party system of US vs. THEM is beyond stupid. Party planks, pledges and pre-election commitments are not how you plan for an unknown future. Its how you lock in a desire to repeat the failures of history.

  • Mary E. Jones

    The Republican legislators, the people who voted for these legislators and those that didn’t vote are responsible.

    Governor Dayton has already compromised BEFORE the regular session ended. Our governor’s original budget included 34% spending cuts and in May he increased it to 64% spending cuts. Meanwhile, the Republican legislature has not compromised on their 100% spending cuts stance.

  • Tom – Arden Hills

    I agree with Ben. “Republican legislators AND the People who voted them into power.”

    Any honest factual analysis can come to no other conclusion. For 6 years Pawlenty refused to compromise. He even unilaterally (and illegally) defined his own uncompromising budget. The Republican “balanced” budget included NOT paying money to schools. Thus we are at a point where for 6 to 8 years there has been no Republican compromise and yet Governor Dayton’s proposal still is a mostly “cut spending” proposal. The governors starting position is already a large compromise.

    There is more wealth disparity than since the great depression. Businesses are sitting on large profits. If they were going to create jobs they already have the wealth and profits to do so. Yet they have chosen to sit on these profits and this concentration of wealth.

    And then there is the moral aspect of our States budget. Do we care about the middle class and less fortunate or do we allow the Republicans to defend the wealthy at their expense? I voted for Arne Carlson and Dave Durenberger and highly respect those men. I do not find it the least bit surprising that both have spoken out against the current Republicans and are now essentially ostracized from the party.

  • Kim

    Blame? Blame who ?

    The process is to blame and the progressive agenda. I do not see MPR speaking about the released document where Dayton prepared his response a good three weeks before the House submitted their proposal. What does that say about transparency and honesty in Dayotn’s office?

    Dayton was directly advised nearly two months ago by George Soros..that alone should tell us all what is in the works and their plan to shut down to use that_ as a weapon against the Republican House and Senate. That is a ploy, and a good tactic from the radical Leftist handbook that most Progressives rely upon.

    Don’t take my word for it_ look it up, ask the media to expose the story..ask Soros about his Dayton meeting. Ask Dayton how that went and how or why he wrote up the response well before seeing the House proposal.

    BTW, Dayton’s millions in the family trust fund does not pay taxes to MN. Dayton never ran a business, never made a business budget, never worried about paying employees on time, but he did a nice job at the May Day protest in D.C. in 1971 to protest the Vietnam war while sitting with a group of drug smoking hippies…..ask him about that weekend and how he was not a fan of anything but the Bill Ayers crowd..now ya all know why Soros came to visit with him. And it was not just about discussing Soros’ design to spend millions of his own money to lobby, to change how Judges are put into office, either.

    WHERE is MPR news to report on these events? Ooops, that’s right_ Soros donated a million half to NPR earlier this year to fund a new investigative dept. right after Juan Williams was fired. It sure looks like Soros’ new NPR Investigative journalist dept. is nothing more than to prevent stories from airing vs. discovering truths. Soros’ media matters attacks the right , attacks Fox News, etc. yet they are a non profit status that barrs such activity.

  • greg

    the idea that there is a mandate. the term is overused, .little understood and implies something that is , in the collective understanding, not true. First – I propose a hurdle for claiming a mandate… and elected official has to recive the numerical equivalent of 57% of the number of eliglble voters to claim a mandate. Short ofthat, you got in to office. I’m tired of elected officials touting a 43% winning total of the 66% of the voting public that acutall showed up to vote. Guess what – with those numbers – 28% of the eligible voters agreed with you. That means 72% were either not interested in your message or were patently against it. That’s your base. Start thinking about them for a change.

  • Loren

    A balanced budget that spends more than the previous biennium was submitted and vetoed. Dayton bears the complete responsibility.

  • mike

    No one is responsible. Quoting Gino: “in a democracy we get precisely what we deserve. ”

  • Jamie

    //”…Dayton prepared his response a good three weeks before the House submitted their proposal… Dayton was directly advised nearly two months ago by George Soros…”//

    Where do you get your wing-nut conspiracy theory? Any evidence?

    This sounds like some typical tricky Republican-generated spin and lies. Did Tony Sutton send out an e-mail to all the gullible right-wingers to pass around to try to discredit Dayton?

  • Dylan

    Everyone carries some blame here: Dayton, GOP leg, and the people. Our elected officals could have been doing more to actually discuss and compromise earlier. However, I feel the GOP carries a lot more of this weight, because they make these cries that we need to get out of deficit asap, but heaven forbid we raise our revenue at all (taxes).

    To those stating “GOP passed a balanced budget that spends more than the last”: I’d hope both sides would pass one that spends more, as time goes on, the cost of doing business increases for everyone, including the state.

    Basic economics here: A deficit comes when expenditures exceeds revenue. To provide the same level of service over time, your expenditures will inherently increase, and if you do not take opportunites to increase revenue (or worse, lower it) you will end up in a deficit.

    Lets get it together MN, I know we are smarter than this, and I HOPE our officials are smarter than this…

  • Rick

    I work in downtown St. Paul. The store owners are all saying that sales have declined from last year as state employees stop spending.

    Perhaps the recession in Minnesota will become worse if the government does shut down. Then where will the republicans cut spending?

  • cas

    The GOP, because they refused all year to compromise at all. The GOP platform was designed assuming an Emmer – that didn’t happen, and they apparently had no plan B – total failure of leadership. Experience matters, and people like Koch and Zellers are newbies who don’t have a clue as to how things work – the governor has about 80% of the power in MN government- they chose to ignore that. What were they expecting would happen? That they would be able to *break* Dayton? Hello..he was elected just as they were. The GP majority in the house looks pretty threatened to me now

  • Michael

    Clearly the Republicans are to blame for not compromising at all with regard to the central issue of revenue vs cuts. They should have worked toward compromise from day 1 of the legislative session and here they are at the end of the fiscal year not having budged.

  • Bruce

    The voters of Minnesota!

  • Jan Willms

    I blame the Republicans entirely. As Dayton said, there is no compassion or concern, unless of course you are corporation or a CEO. Then you absolutely cannot be asked to give an inch, or an extra penny, in taxes. This year’s crop of legislators are so extremist, I doubt anything much can be accomplished in trying to broach a deal.

  • Toni

    I blame “ME”…… for not yelling & screaming all these years!!! I knew that all the short-term fixes

    that the DFL & GOP were signing ……would, of coarse, backfire and fall short for our long term

    core services.

  • Naomi


    Dayton ran for governor of the entire state on raising taxes for the top 2% of wage-earners in Minnesota – enough of us agreed so we elected him. The Republican legislators seem to think they have a mandate but really they were elected in their respective districts and don’t seem to have the entire state’s interests in mind.

    Should the 98% of us suffer because Republicans don’t want to raise taxes on those 2%? Whose side are they on anyway? I think they’ve made it pretty clear.

  • annie

    Please, MPR news folks, when you read a sample of responses on the air, don’t fall into the “fair and balanced” thing and give equal time to each type of answer. Cathy W. did it this morning (I couldn’t believe she actually verbalized that early juvenile, name-calling post against the Governor…) and Tom Crann just did it again recently. I did a quick count of responses, and throwing out anything like “both” or “the voters” or other non-definite answers, the responses are running about 5-to-1 for the responsibility being laid at the GOP’s feet. This fact might be worth a mention when they read some answers on-air…

  • Kim

    Which party ran the state’s House and Senate for the past 6 years?

    Adding a few hundred million to the state spending desires from the past year was which Party’s doing?

    In response to earlier comment Posted by Jamie | June 29, 2011 2:41 PM

    //”…Dayton prepared his response a good three weeks before the House submitted their proposal… Dayton was directly advised nearly two months ago by George Soros…”//

    Where do you get your wing-nut conspiracy theory? Any evidence?”

    There they go again_ use the conspiracy or racist card or any other slam to avoid looking up the facts. The Left used to say that Glenn Beck’s show was all conspiracy well__ now today the White House lists the same three biggest concerns to America, just as Beck reported some two years a go. Funny the Left progressives won’t then admit they were wrong about trying to demean and ridicule any opposing views_ so much for their Far Left tolerance..they tolerate anyone who is only in agreement with them.

    Look at Greece, Egypt riots, Muslim Brotherhood controlling power is now in Egypt, Obama’s love letter to Iran when he took office..and the threat to Israel. Ever see Beck’s Time Line from his show? Funny that all of it has come true yet the mainstream media wouldn’t acknowledge anything until well after the fact…just as our own MN media refuses to report on the stories that could make Dayton and any Progressive look poorly…..facts are facts but the media looks the other way hoping all of us are so dumb not to figure out what is being withheld from us.

    No one even bothers to notice that the 870 billion stimulus that they say_ created or “saved” 2.5 million jobs has cost $334,000 for each of these so called new jobs to be created!! Do the math. The current administration in DC and in our own MN capitol will not tell you the truth. Nor will the mainstream media.

    Instead of calling names and demeaning different views, why not seek the truth yourself instead of relying on the misguided view that an absence of reported stories means it doesn’t exist. My father recalls the marches in Michigan and New Jersey and even in Madison Square Garden back in the late 1930’s when the American Nazi party marched. These are stories that are not easily seen in our history are just as cloistered as Obama’s college records and medical history. Funny that Mc Cain released his medical records in 2007 showing skin cancer, his grades , etc. while Obama refused to reveal any of his records..beyond saying he once did cocaine and had friends who sold it during his younger days..why is that he refused to release his records? We don’t even know who funded his Harvard costs..how odd that is.

    Expecting the media to tell us the whole truth on the MN budget and possible shut down is no different.

  • Erin

    Everyone from the Governor all the way down to the people who voted them all in. PLEASE Minnesotans remember this at election time. I have had enough with politicians who cannot compromise, if we make our toddlers do it, we should make our leaders and representatives do it too. This should not be a huge win for one side ot the other, it should be a middle of the road we all can conceed too.

  • Jeff

    Dayton is directly to blame, he has said multiple times he wants the government to shutdown if he doesn’t get his tax increases. He wants tax increases for political gain and he can show that the republicans didn’t keep their promise of no tax increases. On top of all that he has said he doesn’t want to pass an essential services bill because he wants a government shutdown to hurt. That’s right he actually wants the people of Minnesota to hurt for his political gain!!! All of you out there going after Pawlenty should remember that he was at least responsible enough to pass an essential services budget in 2005 before the government shutdown, Dayton is actually bragging about how he won’t pass such a bill.

  • Larry

    I blame the Tea Party and their ilk …. they promoted and elected people whose tunnel-visoned, narrow-minded goal is simply to cut taxes. Don’t let facts get in the way, don’t let legitimate needs get in the way, just cut, cut, cut, no compromise, cut, cut cut.

  • Jay

    I hold the corporations and wealthy people who refuse to pay their fair share responsible. They pay far less than the rest of us as a percentage of income. Its time for them to pony up.

  • Dayton. Completely, utterly, totally.

    The GOP had a *balanced, workable* budget on his desk – which included a 6% spending hike – by the statutory deadline. Dayton never did submit a balanced budget, even with the tax hikes.

    It’s become clear that Dayton has been planning this shutdown all along.

  • Steve the Cynic

    Uh, Kim, folks are ridiculing those ideas as ridiculous conspiracy theories, because that’s what they are. And aren’t you ridiculing the other side, too? It’s a classic Machiavellian tactic: if you accuse your adversaries of the very things your side is doing, it deflects suspicion from yourself. As for George Soros, doesn’t he have as much right to do what he’s doing with his money as the Koch brothers or Rupert Murdoch have to do what they’re doing with their money?

  • Jamie

    MBerg, Jeff, Kim, Floyd et. al.: Where are you getting this crap? You are so unbelievably ill-informed, or you’re so gullible as to believe these conspiracy theories and other Republican spin and lies, I bet you’d buy some nice swamp land in Cuba from these guys too.

    I asked you for evidence. You gave none. I don’t have time to surf the web for hours to try to find this crap. And besides, you’re probably taking a germ of information (like maybe that George Soros visited Mark Dayton) and you spin it (with the help of shady Republican operatives like Sutton and his minions) into anything that you think could destroy an opponent. You and those shady operatives play dirty and you don’t think beyond your noses. The writing you’ve done here makes this obvious.

    Republicans want to protect the richest, greediest Minnesotans at the expense of the working and middle classes and our most vulnerable citizens. It’s all about greed and power to do what YOU want, not what is good for the community.

    Steve’s correct: the Koch brothers and other super-wealthy, super-greedy people like that don’t just influence the Republican party, they OWN them.

  • Brett Panzer

    All who are opposed to increased taxes on Minnesota’s wealthiest citizens will be to blame for the shutdown. For the last decade, the rich have gotten richer at the expense of the middle and lower class, and now it is their turn to pay up.

  • Every Republican member of the MN House should have his face slapped and his shins kicked for insufferable, mindless intransigence. They would rather wreck the economy than fairly tax the people, including well-off persons, for legitimate expenses of government. What swines! What fools! What asses!

  • chitowngal02

    I have been watching the Repubs for years now. Not only are they worried about lining their own pockets but they DO ACCEPT SOC SECURITY/MEDICARE BENEFITS offered to them when they retire, I have heard them say that they are ‘ENTITLED”.Too funny.

    No surprise here folks. What is truly galling is that they think that their money makes them refined and everybody should live like they want them too. I have had plenty of the Nanny State.

  • Thomas McCoy

    I blame the Republican Party.

  • Dan

    Republicans. Any responsible adult can see that to balance the budget we need to cut spending AND raise revenues. The tax cuts from early last decade did not deliver the growth they promised. Turns out we can’t afford them.

  • Duane

    At this time there are 147 comments posted and most posters do not have the facts straight. The Legislature did pass a balanced budget, some of the appropriation bills could have been signed and passed, which would have avoided some of the threatened shut down. The budget reflected a 6% increase in projected revenue, not a cut. The cut was in the proposed budget the Dayton set forth. The Tribune should do a better job spelling out the correct facts. I also feel that MPR erred in submitting this question without a more detailed explanation of the actual budget impasse.

  • Linda

    Mark dayton is responsible if Minnesota has

    a shut down…He is like all the other politicians….FOR HIM SELF….Dayton has never been for the people….Who ever thought

    he would be….When you come from money all you want is more… He doesnt care who he hurts or how long and hard he hurts them he is on such a high pedistal he thinks he is GOD…. And yes I’am a Democrat

  • Jeff

    Jamie – [MBerg, Jeff, Kim, Floyd et. al.: Where are you getting this crap? You are so unbelievably ill-informed, or you’re so gullible as to believe these conspiracy theories and other Republican spin and lies, I bet you’d buy some nice swamp land in Cuba from these guys too.] *** My theories were not based on some conspiracy. In fact, the only two things that I claimed were that Dayton wanted a government shutdown to hurt and that he purposefully is refusing to pass an essential services bill. Both of these are easy to prove…here’s the website for Dayton wanting to create pain: http://www.scribd.com/doc/57940662/Lobbyist-Email-Details-Dayton-Administration-s-Plan-to-Cause-Greatest-Possible-Pain-in-Shutdown and here’s the website for the governor refusing to call special session to negotiate an essential services bill: http://www.kare11.com/news/article/927484/391/Republicans-urge-Dayton-to-call-special-session-despite-stalemate Plus this one: http://www.mngop53a.org/component/content/article/136-the-dayton-government-shutdown.html So go ahead feel foolish now.

  • Steve the Cynic

    Duane, et al., you need to get your facts straight. Had you actually been paying attention to MPR’s coverage (or the Strib’s), you would be aware that it’s more complicated than you suggest. Yes, the Legislature’s budget represented increases in revenues and spending, but because of T-Paw’s accounting shifts and the lack of federal stimulus money that we had last year and increasing population, those budgetary “increases” would still result in significant cuts somewhere– in human services, or education, or law enforcement, or DNR, etc., or some combination thereof. Dayton correctly describes the Republican’s proposed solution to the forecasted deficit as “all cuts.”

  • Donna


  • Bruce

    Both the Legislative and Executive branches, both Republicans and DFLers.

    The best thing that could be done is put a constitutional ammendment on the ballot that would require all elected legislative and executive branch individuals to run for re-election in the following November if a budget has not been passed by the mandated May deadline.

    I bet we would see some action on both sides of the aisle and in both branches of the government if their jobs depended on it.

  • David


    No question.

  • Jitterbug

    Republicans all the way. How is eliminating a $200 million in tax cuts equal in demanding dropping the top 2% tax increase of 1.8 billion proposal. GOP-remember what you did and did not do for the citizens of Minnesota. No, this is not a kudos for you. Most voters will definitely will remember this in November 2012. Oh-the drama…

  • suzie

    I blame the politicians, lobbyest and their minions for stalling on the most important problem – the budget. Politicians try to keep their jobs by passing bills that keep their voters happy and those bills cost money. So the budget should have been worked on first and the budget bills past before any other legislation. In this manner, they would know what they could spend. I blame ALL the current legislators and the governor – none of which I will vote for next time around. If any state worker , or any worker, would screw up their jobs this badly, they would be fired.

  • Mary

    The intransigent Republicans who refused to start earlier this year to reach an acceptable compromise with Dayton and the Democrats. No solution will be simple, but there are a lot of Minnesotans depending on state government to redistribute the wealth fairly, which means having fair progressive taxes in place to cover all projected expenses.

  • JP


  • Bill

    A couple facts:

    1) In 2010, Governor Dayton won by a mere 8753 votes.

    2) 55.1% of voters voted AGAINST Mark Dayton

    3) The GOP flipped both houses of the legislature in a historic, unprecedented victory.

    If ANYONE should be compromising on ANYTHING, it is Mark Dayton.

    The GOP Legislature passed balanced budgets earlier than ANY previous DFL legislature has in the past.

    The GOP Budgets are the LARGEST IN STATE HISTORY. “All Cuts” is simply a LIE. Only in the mind of a liberal can a $4B increase be considered a cut.

    On October 24, 2010, in a gubernatorial debate on 5 Eyewitness News he vowed not to allow a government shutdown.

    Mark Dayton could end this standoff tomorrow if he would call a special session. Only he has the power to do this. Both houses of the legislature have repeatedly said they would pass temporary funding bills to keep the government operating at current levels while further negotiations occurred.


  • Bill


    “No solution will be simple, but there are a lot of Minnesotans depending on state government to redistribute the wealth fairly”


    By definition, redistributing the wealth is UNFAIR because you are taking it from those who earn it and giving it to those who didn’t. In any other RATIONAL world, that is called THEFT.

    “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”

    You Marxists make me want to vomit.

  • Steve the Cynic

    “By definition, redistributing the wealth is UNFAIR because you are taking it from those who earn it and giving it to those who didn’t.”

    Actually, Bill, that’s not “by definition.” In fact, it assumes that the current distribution of wealth is fair, which is highly dubious. It also assumes that those who currently possess the wealth actually earned it, which is often patently false. Redistribution of wealth happens all the time. the so-called “free market” tends to redistribute wealth from those who have less to those who have more, because those who have more start with an unfair advantage in the marketplace. Progressive income taxes and inheritance taxes serve to balance that tendency and are arguably more fair than a flat tax.

    What makes me sick is when people are so blinded by ideology that they ignore reality.

  • James

    all of them. I hired them to do a job, part of which is meeting a deadline. The expectation is working together and compromise for the greatest good at the lowest cost. when my employees miss deadlines, I hold them accountable. I will do the same here.

  • Prof. R.

    Steve The Cynic,

    As an scholarly practitioner of economics, I must take issue with your characterization of market economics.

    There is no presumption of fairness within the economic system, only a presumption of reasonable access to markets. Intelligent people disagree on the best way to provide equitable access and how to distribute the costs in a way that addresses the free rider problem while providing that equity.

    Whatever your political beliefs, what you cannot ignore or distort to strengthen your position, is the economic principle that “People respond to incentives in predictable ways.”

  • C. Dorr

    1. The voters who elected both tihe Legislature & Gov. Dayton in 2010. It was crystal clear during the campaigns that these 2 were completely opposite in their approach to balancing the State budget. We get the Gov’t we deserve.

    2. The ultra-right wing think tanks in Washington D.C.They have brainwashed the Republican members of the state Legislatures/assemblies to accept ” prima facia” the policies which are hamful to our people. This does not allow any independent thought, compromise (horrors) or dialogue. Their concrete-hard adherence to policies leaves no room to tailor buget solutions or for creative ideas on this budget crisis.

  • Karen

    I blame the people. We are too complacent in our little worlds. We should have been demonstrating weeks ago for our elected officials to do their job or lose their job. It’s a sad day in MN when we, the people, don’t have the backbone to stand up to an irresponsible government.

  • Steve the Cynic

    Nice theory, Prof R., but it doesn’t work that way in the real world. A theoretically ideal free market would work the way you suggest, but there’s no such thing in reality, as you must surely be aware. Both the free market ideal and the socialist ideal will inevitably fail, and for exactly the same pair of reasons: no one is completely rational, and unscrupulous folks will always find a way to game the system and exploit others for their own gain. In a free-market system, wealth is power, and so the already-wealthy have more power to gain more wealth than the not-yet-wealthy, which tends to result in an ever greater wealth disparity, as we’ve seen over the last three decades of deregulation and decreasing progressivity of taxes.

  • Bob

    I blame republicans and their no compromise mentality

  • Jeff

    Steve the Cynic – [Both the free market ideal and the socialist ideal will inevitably fail, and for exactly the same pair of reasons: no one is completely rational, and unscrupulous folks will always find a way to game the system and exploit others for their own gain.] *** Remember we have laws to prevent people from taking advantage of others, you can always sue for damages if you feel you have been wronged by another group/individual. The government was set up to create those laws we are all supposed to follow and not to redistribute wealth. The problem now is that there is a large percentage of people who don’t even pay certain taxes, when 47% of people don’t pay federal income taxes there is something wrong with the system. There also has to be something done with people at the high end of the income scale so capital gains can be taxed as normal income (with a small deduction so the average person just saving a small amount of hard earned money is not hurt by the increase in capital gains tax). The sad thing is that most of us would agree on what needs to be done but lately there is no political will to actually accomplish something.

  • Steve the Cynic

    And, Prof R., regarding that economic principle (“People respond to incentives in predictable ways”), it’s approximately true, in the aggregate. However, there is much of human activity that it doesn’t explain, such as altruism, spite, addiction, obsession, etc.

  • Steve the Cynic

    Remember we have laws to prevent people from taking advantage of others, you can always sue for damages if you feel you have been wronged by another group/individual.”

    That’s assuming you can afford to hire a lawyer, or are willing to put up with the stress and opportunity cost of a lawsuit on a contingency fee basis. The ideology that says government must never redistribute wealth presumes that the existing distribution is somehow fair.

  • Jeff

    Steve the Cynic – [That’s assuming you can afford to hire a lawyer, or are willing to put up with the stress and opportunity cost of a lawsuit on a contingency fee basis. The ideology that says government must never redistribute wealth presumes that the existing distribution is somehow fair.] *** If you are worried about finding a lawyer to take your case on a contigent basis you probably don’t have much of a case anyway. You forgot one other option, just learn the law yourself in that specific area you are going to court for; if you know your stuff and you know someone violated the law you have nothing to lose. Please stop with usage of the word “fair”, that’s the word an 8 year old child uses when they don’t get what they want. It’s such a great world in politics because it means different things to different people, so in reality it is meaningless. Just be specific on your definition of the word “fair”, do you mean a flat tax where everyone pays the same tax rate? Do you mean “fair” outcomes and not “fair” opportunities? Do you mean everyone should be paid exactly the same?

  • Steve the Cynic

    You forgot one other option, just learn the law yourself in that specific area you are going to court for.”

    No, I didn’t forget that. It’s just not realistic for most folks. Even if they could learn to understand the legalese, you’re still assuming they’re able to bear the opportunity cost. The economically disadvantaged folks I know are way too busy trying to eke out a living in a system that seems stacked against them to have time to study the fine details of the law. And even if they did, the rich follks they’d be trying to sue would be able to out-lawyer them. And if you think fairness is a childish concept, then maybe I shouldn’t waste my time trying to talk persuade you. Are you saying “I’ve got mine and you can’t have it” is not a childish concept?

  • Jeff

    Steve the Cynic – [And if you think fairness is a childish concept, then maybe I shouldn’t waste my time trying to talk persuade you. Are you saying “I’ve got mine and you can’t have it” is not a childish concept?] *** Wow, I ask for clearification on what “fairness” means to you and you can’t even respond without going into your talking points. In the end you had no logical response. As far as poor people working too hard to take something to court and learn about the law, sorry but I have no sympathy; if something is truly important put some effort into it. Also, I don’t believe “I’ve got mine and you can’t have it”, I went to college to get an engineering degree and I’m doing okay now but I still have school loans I am paying off; I just realize hard work and effort do payoff, you just can’t go to a private college for 5 years and get a degree in sociology and then be upset you can’t find a job and you’re $50k+ in debt. So if you want to have a real conversation instead of going on about your talking points, it would be nice if you could clearly explain your definition of “fairness” in reference to government policy, including actual numbers and figures instead of going on and on how people will die in the street if we don’t increase government spending by 15-20% every year.

  • Steve the Cynic

    “it would be nice if you could clearly explain your definition of “fairness” in reference to government policy, including actual numbers and figures instead of going on and on how people will die in the street if we don’t increase government spending by 15-20% every year.”

    Jeff, when was I “going on and on” about any such thing? Are you assuming that because I’m disagreeing with you on one point I must be an extremist on the other side? That’s what inhibits discussion. As for my “definition” of fairness, no matter what I say, you can just say you disagree with it. So let me ask you, by what definition of fair is it fair that folks who are born into poor families have a much harder time in life than people who are born into rich families? Did you somehow deserve to the the parents you got? What did you do to earn the opportunities you’ve had that others did not have?How did you merit growing up in a neighborhood with a good suburban school with excellent teachers, instead of a crumbling, underfunded inner-city one with teachers who settled on that one as the best they could get. Did Mark Dayton earn his trust fund? Of course not. That’s why he sees the truth that progressive taxation is a fair way to balance the inequities in the system.

    Regarding this comment: “As far as poor people working too hard to take something to court and learn about the law, sorry but I have no sympathy; if something is truly important put some effort into it.” I have to ask, how many poor people do you know? If you’re juggling two or three part time jobs to eke out a living and also trying to raise your kids and deal with a dead-beat dad, studying law in your spare time is hardly realistic. You might as well say, “Let them eat cake.” Open your eyes and look at the real world. Volunteer at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter or food shelf for a while and get to know some of the real folks we’re talking about, and then let’s quibble about the definition of fair.

  • David

    I would lay 50% of the blame on the GOP and 50% on the Minnesota voters who put them into office. What we have here is a failure to capitulate, mainly as the result of unnecessary obstacles being posed by inexperienced Tea Party candidates who are presently in the state legislature.

  • Prof. R.

    Steve The Cynic

    your observation about rational actors is right on. It has to do with equitable access to markets, and again, intelligent folks disagree on how a government corrects and dis-incentivises irrational action and ensures equitable access to scarce resources.

    Economic theory does not explain, nor should it attempt to explain all human activity. I would submit, however, that the utility a person derives from a so-called “altruistic” act, is not so dissimilar from the utility I derive from a Mt. Dew.

    Good discussion. What our elected officials need to keep top of mind, is that fundamentally their jobs are to solve the problem in my first paragraph.

  • Rodney Tyberg

    GOP is at fault

  • Jeff

    Steve the Cynic – [talking points, talking points and more talking points] *** Nice, I didn’t want you to go on and on about the talking points and that’s all I got from you. I wanted concrete answers but none were provided, so if you want to give us your definition of fairness we can have an adult conversation otherwise you can continue with your monologue with yourself. It’s much easier to complain and complain instead of giving some real solutions and putting your own ideas to the test isn’t it?

  • Mike

    The GOP promised to hold the line on spending during the election.

    They didn’t. They’re spending more than they did last biennium. But their budget didn’t increase taxes, so they kept one promise.

    Dayton promised not to shut down the government during the election.

    Now he is.

    I’ll blame Dayton. He could have kept the majority of the government running, but his strategy is trying to shut the whole of state government down so that he can get his way on the other parts.

  • Brian D

    Republican legislators.

  • Diana

    The GOP controls both houses so they should be held responsible for the damages. Their only concern is to preserve tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires who fund them and pay on average 1/2 of what the rest of us pay for services. It’s time they pay their FAIR SHARE if they want roads, hospitals, schools, law enforcement, etc.! These GOPer’s could care less what happens to 98% of us who are struggling to make ends meet. Who in the world is voting for these characters?

  • JR

    The voters of MN had a rational, centrist choice, Tom Horner. Instead thousands of you gave into fear mongering and voted for ideological extremism. And now you whine when you get it.

    I cannot feel sorry for anyone negatively impacted by the shutdown who cast a vote for Dayton or Emmer.

  • Vin

    There are some interesting ideas here, but also some issues of people not knowing or understanding the facts. Diana – your comment could not be further from the truth. The ‘rich’ pay over 50% of all taxes in the U.S. Do you think the rich use 50% of the benefits? They probably use less than 1% of the public benefits. Is this fair? In addition, ‘rich’ is a matter of perspective. I agree that if you make 1MM plus per year and have 5mm+ in net assets you are rich. But, is someone who makes 75K a year rich? I would like to know everyone’s belief on this. Dayton was trying to raise taxes on the ‘rich’. He labels the rich households that make over 150K a year. Believe me, that is far from ‘rich’. Trying making payments on 300K in student loans, pay for children, a home, etc on 150K between 3-4 people. Also, a flat tax would be more ‘fair’ with every dollar of earned income over 500K (per individual) taxed at a higher rate. Also, one more comment about fairness: should I feel discriminated against because another person, group, race, etc is more financially successful than me? Well, I hate to burst everyone’s bubble, but this is how life is. The most intelligent people tend to make the most money (yes there are plenty of exceptions). Do you want a great ‘correlated’ factual statistic? Whites (Caucasians) do not make the most income in the U.S. A different race does…. Asians have higher average incomes in the U.S. than whites. So, next time you want to vote for a candidate who likes ‘redistribute wealth’ and take from those who work to give to those who don’t, think about this fact. Many people from many diverse backgrounds have the opportunity to succeed in the U.S. and many different people do. Some have a ‘leg-up’ but this is normal and natural. The cream will almost always rise to the top. Yet, due to govt policy and corporate greed, this is becoming less and less true in my opinion.


  • jriesen

    What an absolute waste. Shame on you. Republicans frittering away an entire session on stupid, non-important legislation and then don’t know how to work together and compromise when it comes to thousands of peoples livelihoods. You all disgust me. I hope you enjoy your jobs while you have them because I won’t be voting for you next time around.

  • Bill

    The republican legislature is entirely responsible for the damaging government shut down. They have revealed their true priority is the continued transfer of wealth to their cronies at the expense of the well being of the majority of Minnesotans.

  • Kel Vonscratch

    I hold the republicans responsible 100%.

    This is supposed to be a negotiation and a compromise, dayton has compromised that the republicans have declared NO compromise whatsoever. Thats not governance, its not leadership.

    Republicans want to balance the budget solely on the backs of the poor and middle class and will take no compromise.

    Dayton wants to balance the budget on the poor, the middle class, and the extremely wealthy.

    I am very tired of people blaming BOTH sides, this is one side holding everyone hostage and refusing to negotiate.

  • Rose


    If you go broke in your own home, what do you do? You cut your spending! You don’t go to your “rich” neighbor and demand that they give you more money.

  • Brian D

    I am semi-retired. I teach part-time as an adjunct faculty member at a college in the TC. During the summer, I spend most of my days reading and writing. I will not be deeply affected by the shutdown. There are however a lot of very vulnerable people who will be, and I feel deeply the pain they’re going to endure.

    There is greater disparity today between the wealthy and the rest of us in this country than at any other time since the years leading up to the Great Depression. There is greater disparity between the wealthy and the rest of society in this country than in any other developed country in the world. The policies that Koch and the Republicans want to implement will deepen that divide.

    I am appalled that Republicans will not even consider an increase in the tax rate for the top 2% of income earners in this state. The MN Department of Revenue released a report a few months ago indicating that the top 10% of MN income earners have an effective tax rate of 10.3% and the rest of us an effective tax rate of 12.3%. The Republicans have that information and still oppose a tax increase on the top 2%.

    We need to keep in mind that this budget crisis was created by Republicans: Pawlenty, who refused to compromise during his eight years in office and work with Democrats to create a budget that didn’t get by on shell games, and the current Republican legislature, that will not compromise on anything. Remember that in 2012.

    The Republicans will try to engineer another budget crisis for 2013, so that they can once again push their agenda of lower taxes and cutting funding. They will do this every budget cycle, because for Republicans, a budget crisis is a political and economical tool. Remember that, too, when you go to the polls in 2012.

  • L. Sharbono

    Mark Dayton’s fault from start to finish. The GOP legislature offered multiple budget bills and compromises, all of which Dayton rejected out of hand. Thursday night, when the legislature wanted a special session, he refused. Finally, when they asked to negotiate for a temporary lights-on bill to keep the Government open while they continued to negotiate, he refused that as well. I believe he wanted the shut-down all along, betting on the fact that the local media would be complicit in convincing the people of the Minnesota that a shut-down would be the fault of the GOP legislature. That’s a pretty safe bet here in Minnesota.

  • Steve the Cynic

    Jeff, your complaints about my “talking points” sounds like a case of projection– perceiving in others things that are really your issues. At most, it’s an instance of the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. I’m just trying to point out that there are other legitimate points of view besides the ideological bullshit that seems to inform your opinions, but you’d have to be willing to open your mind to see that. I used to call myself a “conservative” and voted republican, and I would staunchly defend my right to keep more of “my” money because I thought I had earned it and deserved it. Gradually, though, I came to realize that it was rationalizing and excuse-making for my failure to live up to my social responsibility. It was all bullshit. My ability to “earn” money was itself not something I had earned, but something the entire social system I lived in had made possible. Progressive taxes are not “theft.” They’re dues. And yes, we are our brothers’ and sisters’ keepers.

  • Jopy Vonblort

    This is ALL Mark Daytons fault. We need to ELIMINATE taxes on the wealthy ENTIRELY. They create ALL of the jobs and it is the poor that use ALL of the services. If anything, taxes should be raised on the poor and abolished on the wealthy and until that happens, we will have a terrible deficet and will remain an insolvent state.



  • Deekay

    I realized when I decided I couldn’t trust myself to call MPR this morning just how angry and disgusted I am about the government shutdown. In the spirit of full disclosure, I am still working in a position deemed critical, so this is not about my being laid off.

    The sanctimonious attitude displayed, once again, by the Republicans was, just as Governor Dayton indicated, a publicity stunt. I applaud Governor Dayton for not yielding to the pressure to keep “lights on”. I believe that would only have postponed the inevitable. I believe it would have been inevitable because I do not see the Republicans capable of much beyond saying ‘no!’ Just as in a marriage, the person who withholds and says no is the person with the power in that relationship.

    I heard one caller state that businesses tend to come to MN because of the social services we provide to Minnesotans. And, he further stated that data does not show that higher taxes prevent businesses from locating here – an argument offered repeatedly by Republicans. Is there any way to test the veracity of either view? It would seem to be an important detail to bring to the public’s awareness. It is something that I trust MPR to provide as you are the only station to which I consistently set my radio.

    Lately, I have heard more remarks about ‘republicans hate women and poor people.’ One could dismiss this as political rhetoric were it not for the budget items where they recommend some of the most significant cutting.

  • Judie Liszt

    I attribute this mess to Governor Pawlenty and Governor Ventura before him. We need to reform our whole tax structure in Minnesota. The gimmickry that Pawlenty used to “balance” the budget combined with the short sighted tax cuts and ridiculous rebates from Jesse have created an incredibly difficult situation and put our state in a terrible predicament. It will take real statesmanship, dedication to Minnesota values, and COMPROMISE to resolve this impasse. My personal values align with Governor Dayton’s approach of a balanced combination of sensible revenue increases and thoughtful spending cuts.

  • michael

    The republicans.

    When the past election changed the make up of the legislature, the republicans said it was because of the economy/jobs. They wasted their time on other issues and ignored their “call” to work on the economy until the last minute.

    My representative/senator from Wright county don’t even seem to have the time to answer my emails/phone calls they’re both to busy posturing and complaining.

  • Neil

    Simplify the question: Are you a liberal or a conservative? That would pretty much tell you who that person would blame.

  • George

    The Republicans

  • keepalow

    Temple Grandin is my hero.

    • Suzanne

      I second that!

  • Gene

    The appreciation of the diversity of humans may possibly Increase our wisdom to deal with our terrible power within our wonderful Earth.

  • M L in Mpls

    Please speak to the special challenges faced by adults diagnosed after 45 years of age–most in that group grew up without a diagnosis and without the benefit of having found a way into the kinds of support experienced by Dr. Grandin as a young person and in early career choices. For these people, who are now in later career and are parents or grandparents, the family dynamics and career transitions challenges are daunting …if one landed on a career track that was never a good fit; and many, many have and are a big chunk of the current long-term unemployed…; I feel many in this group are deeply impoverished by their experiences and are reluctant to step forward for help and for clarity on how they can be more successful with the rest of their life.

  • Karen

    Will a recording of this interview ever be made available for those of us who could not attend?

    • Chris Dall

      Yes, Karen, you can hear the conversation with Temple Grandin on Tuesday, May 21st, in the 11am hour.

  • Max Power

    I too would be grateful if you would rebroadcast the interview on Midmorning the next time you need a day off. And with the weather this gorgeous, maybe that could be soon!

  • Eioljg

    While I’m sure I’m not autistic, I have some of the traits mentioned above to a lesser degree. I had a hard time in grade school relating to the other kids because I couldn’t figure out who was who. I still have some difficulty with this, and I rely more on body type, posture, gait, etc than on faces, unless I know the people really well. But I remember times I didn’t recognize my own kids when I saw them from a distance greater than in my living room.

  • Please listen to our interview with Dr Temple Grandin discussing The Autistic Brain http://my.blogtalkradio.com/thecoffeeklatch/2013/05/12/temple-grandin–the-autistic-brain