An assault on the free press in Dodge County

A publisher of local newspapers in Dodge County — the Star Herald and Byron Review — was covering a news story recently when his camera’s data card was confiscated by a sheriff’s deputy. The data card was taken and hasn’t been returned, the Rochester Post Bulletin says.

“I’m feeling like we really have a problem with law enforcement in Dodge County,” Larry Dobson said.

Dobson said he was at a vantage point at the scene of a drowning search — one that hadn’t been cordoned off by police — when the deputy stopped him and asked for his camera. That’s the point at which he should have said “no, get a warrant.” He didn’t. He hasn’t seen his photos or videos since.

There were 8,000 files on the data card and the sheriff’s department says it’s in the process of copying them.

“Unfortunately this is an open incident right now, so I am unable to comment on it,” Dodge County Sheriff Scott Rose wrote in an email to the Post Bulletin. “The incident is currently with the Dodge County Attorney’s Office for review.”

“My concern, if I wanted to duplicate that chip, I would put it in my computer and duplicate it and it would take me approximately two minutes to do that,” Dobson tells the paper. “It is obvious they are doing more than just duplicating it. … Either way, they don’t have any right. They were required to get a search warrant.”

The Post Bulletin ran an editorial condemning the action:

Taking a notebook, camera, film, data card or whatever else from a journalist doing his or her job is a provocative act, against us and against the public. The public depends on reporters and photographers to do their work without fear of intimidation by public officials or confiscation of notes and photos. That’s called First Amendment protection, to gather information and report it.

It’s especially hard to understand why Dodge County authorities chose to do it in this case. The photos have no value in terms of evidence, in Dobson’s view, and if authorities want to challenge that, there’s a proper way to pursue it — in court, not by confiscating photos at the scene.

Nobody’s talking who’s in a position to answer the question about why there’s an overreach of law enforcement into the notes and photos of journalists in Dodge County.

“This is behavior that is way out there,” Mark Afinson, the first amendment attorney who represents Minnesota newspapers and other media. “It imposes on the sheriff’s department a very significant burden to demonstrate the need and necessity for doing so. Nothing I have heard so far comes close to satisfying that burden.”

Meanwhile, the White House yesterday banned a CNN reporter from an open press event because it didn’t like the questions Kaitlin Collins had asked the president earlier.

President Trump recently refused to take questions from another CNN reporter, but Collins was acting as a pool reporter at the White House when she asked Trump about tapes which appear to show the candidate Trump arranging a payoff to a woman. She also asked about the decision not to have Russian boss Vladimir Putin at the White House.

Even Fox News stood against the heavy handed treatment of the free press.

“We stand in strong solidarity with CNN for the right to full access for our journalists as part of a free and unfettered press,” network president Jay Wallace said in a statement.

His own employees never got the memo.

  • wjc

    We should all be concerned by the creeping fascism that seems to be taking hold.

  • MrE85

    During my brief stint as a reporter/editor, a school board official demanded my notes and audio tapes after a bizarre, rambling speech from the school superintendent at a school board meeting.

    I wouldn’t give them up. We never reported the incident, and the school superintendent quietly “went away” soon afterward.

    I still wonder if we did the right thing.

    • Of course you did the right thing. The Constitution is not a mere inconvenience.

      • MrE85

        I meant in not reporting what the supervisor said.. But there was no way I was giving up my notes.

      • theoacme

        As far as not giving up notes/recording, or not running a Page 1 editorial condemning the egregious violation of the First Amendment committed (prior restraint comes immediately to mind), with full details of the rambling bizzaro-ness?

        I’d say a case could be made for no editorial way back when, but not now.

  • MarkUp

    “It’s about time there were consequences for disrespectful behavior in the White House.”
    I spat my coffee out on that one.

  • Guest

    Cop made a mistake, nobody wants to say sorry and return the photos. It is going to be expensive (time or money) to resolve this now.

    • theoacme

      A deliberate and willful action isn’t a “mistake”…

      • MikeB

        And many of our fellow citizens have no issue with crushing the 1st Amendment

        • The Resistance

          Clearly the founders had no idea that the 1st, 4th, and 25th amendments wouldn’t be as sexy as the 2nd.

        • I saw a bunch of veterans turn to the press the other day and hiss and boo.

          But, yeah, thanks for your service, fellas.

          • The Resistance

            I’m trying to decide if that was more chilling than the US Attorney General chanting “Lock Her Up!” with high school students on Tuesday. I declare it a tie.

            Before I thank a vet for their service, I want to know how they served. I’m not offering a blanket ‘thankyouforyourservice’ to Charles Graner.

          • MrE85

            Yeah, it’s stuff like that made me drop my membership in the American Legion (he was speaking to the VFW).

          • Mike Worcester

            I know it’s off topic, but I would ask why any VFW member would so heartily cheer a president who openly bragged about using bone spurs in his foot to get out of serving in Vietnam. Am I missing something?

            More on topic — Would those booing and hissing a *free* press prefer, perhaps, a state-run media like Pravda?

          • MrE85

            Demographically speaking, veterans tend to be on the conservative end of the spectrum (although we’re not all there). But I hear you. Commander-in-chief or not, there was no need to cheer a line like that — or to say it.

            We veterans are just like other Americans. Many of us are as dumb as a box of rocks.

          • The anti-free-media ideology isn’t conservatism. That’s just hijacking a political belief.

            If veterans are turning on the free press while contending they fought for the preservation of freedom, well, that’s not conservatism. That’s just hypocrisy.

          • MrE85

            It looks like the political belief you speak of has been hijacked, gagged and bound, beaten and left in the woods to die. Who knows if it will make it?

            I don’t base base my patriotism on colored rags, hard-to-sing songs, soaring eagles or anything sung by Lee Greenwood.

            I still hold some hope that we can come out of this darkness and start on building that more perfect union I’ve heard about all my life.

            If not, I’ll see you in New Zealand.

          • // Lee Greenwood.

            Ni…ag….ra Falls!

          • jon

            I feel like more and more what matters in political affiliation isn’t what your policy positions are… it’s what they were when you finally bought into the “us vs. them” mentality.

            Once you buy into that, then you get into self supporting beliefs… when your party says the press is bad, you check to make sure the other party disagrees, and then you boo the press. because the alternative would be to agree with them.

            Though I do feel like one party has taken this to far more of an extreme than the other… or at least to a more ironic level of hypocrisy…

          • // Would those booing and hissing a *free* press prefer, perhaps, a state-run media like Pravda?

            If it reinforces their political ideology, yes, that’s exactly what they would prefer.

          • Mike Worcester

            And that is both sad and frightening; at least to me.

          • Frank

            Hold on now. This reporter’s 1st and 4th amendment rights were clearly violated. And I hope that cop loses his job.

            But booing media for their crappy, biased reporting is covered too. And doing so does not mean they’d prefer more bias of another flavor.

            I was watching news coverage of Trump and the EU president jointly announcing they’d made a deal on trade which means hundreds of billions of dollars to US companies.

            CNN was absolutely despicable. Not one positive word was spoken as they tried mightily to convince us this means nothing.

            Anyone who saw only that coverage would conclude Trump had completely bungled the negotiation, instead of scoring a significant win for all of us.

            That kind of yellow journalism needs all the boos we can muster. Trump is wrong to exclude CNN; they need to be present anytime he speaks, anywhere, so we can excersize our rights.

          • // But booing media for their crappy, biased reporting is covered too.

            The extent to which the president has flat out been wrong about what the media has reported is well documented.

            Yes, I realize this qualifies in some circles as crappy, biased reporting. But that doesn’t make it crappy, biased reporting.

            As far as not saying anything positive, it’s not CNN’s job to be your cheerleader.

            Here’s what they said:

            The two sides said that they had agreed to discuss tearing down all tariffs, trade barriers and subsidies on non-auto industrial goods. Trump said that they had also agreed to work together to resolve the issue of “retaliatory tariffs” imposed in recent months.

            The President’s announcement that Europe will buy more soybeans and liquid national gas could be good news for US agriculture and industry.
            And Juncker, apparently keen to flatter Trump, was eager to play along in language that the President appreciates.

            “When I was invited by the President to the White House, I had one intention: I had the intention to make a deal today. And we made a deal today,” he said.
            It would be huge news if the US and Europe ever agreed to get to the zero tariffs, zero subsidies and zero barriers standard that both leaders proposed on Wednesday.

            But it was also clear that the deal unveiled on Wednesday was a truce — rather than a peace treaty. It averted the trade war Trump had effectively started — and included a vague commitment for talks toward a real but distant goal. Juncker, though, said both sides agreed to hold off on future tariffs while the talks were taking place — in an apparent victory for Europe.

            They agreed to work toward no tariffs. There were no details released on the agreement, so your statement about what it means is mere speculation.

            Talking is better than not talking. But it’s not an agreement. The soybean and LNG sales is a goal of the negotiations. But there are, at present no negotiations set.

            Granted that’s different than the approach FoxNews took. So let the Wall Street Journal break the tie.

            https://www.wsj.com/articles/us-eu-agree-to-resolve-trade-differences-1532524795

            While the two sides said the deal was contingent on negotiating in good faith, there was no schedule set to complete the talks, meaning that what amounted to a temporary truce could turn into a permanent one—or fall apart if one side accuses the other of lagging behind. To complete a deal, the EU would also face the difficult task of forging a consensus among all its 28 members, including both France and Germany, who often have divergent trade priorities.

            CNN wins this one.

            By the way, an agreement to negotiate is the same thing the US and China agreed to a little while ago, shortly before the trade war broke out.

            My guess is this sort of detail is lost on the veterans , who, like so many Americans, only know what “their side” tells them, showing a continuing disinterest in little things like details.

          • Frank

            Man, that’s *not* correct, which is no surprise since you’re quoting CNN.

            The EU has agreed to immediately buy lots of LNG and….*soybeans*.

            https://www.rt.com/business/434269-eu-buy-soy-lng/

            That is a hard comittment and more, it gives us a tremendous edge in negotiating with China.

            Trump is gonna pull this thing off, and it’s just *killing* the leftist media.

            And by the way, I’m a vet too, and nothing is getting by me, or my fellow vets. Not everyone is as widely read as I, but when I speak to others, they are very well informed.

          • Well, actually, I quoted the Wall Street Journal. You quoted Russia Today.

            thank you for your service, comrade.

          • Frank

            Lol…I thought you’d appreciate that.

            Since we were discussing CNN, and you said:

            “As far as not saying anything positive, it’s not CNN’s job to be your cheerleader.

            Here’s what they said:”

            I naturally concluded you were quoting CNN.

            Here’s more you won’t find on CNN or Russia.

            “One option Mr. Juncker mentioned was for the EU to build more LNG terminals that could facilitate higher imports.”

            https://www.advfn.com/news_Europe-Welcomes-Trade-Steps-With-U-S-But-Many-Que_77942825.html

            But will the rest of the EU go along? Well one would think he had a general commitment before making the offers, but there’s also this:

            “Good news from the USA,” German Economics Minister Peter Altmaier tweeted after the announcement. “Breakthrough achieved that can avoid trade war & save millions of jobs!”

            Of course buying LNG isn’t giving away the store; Europe is going to need lots in any case. Buying soybeans is, in my opinion the best part since it directly assists us against China.

            There are details to be worked out, but one thing is clear. Our trade agreements are going to be better for us than they were. No one had the cajones to tackle it; Trump did, and he is winning.

            Despite what CNN may say.

          • // There are details to be worked out

            You think?

            // Trump did, and he is winning.

            Well, maybe soon that political view will be shared by economists and experts on trade.

            In the meantime, it’s another example of believing what you’re told over what the facts say. Maybe it’s a veterans thing?

          • Frank

            Never said there were not. I was proving your observation that there were no details was wrong.

            Trump made a deal yesterday that
            1. Has concrete commitments
            2. Ensures that whatever the details are, they will put us in a better trade position than we had previously.

            BTW. I see why you didn’t quote CNN directly:

            https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/politics/trump-juncker-tariffs-trade/index.html

            You’ve been indirectly quoting them all along. And I accurately described their angle, although the written version lacks the facial expressions of the TV hosts.

          • He made a deal to make a deal. That’s the deal. The blockquote was from CNN. It was confirmed by WSJ.

            but facial expressions now? OK, then.

          • Frank

            The German Economics Minister withstanding, sure.

            I’m wondering if veteran bashing will catch on among the leftist media. It’s clearly popular among your readers. FWIW, please accept my full endorsement of that approach.

          • Rob

            Your statements are troll-worthy. I haven’t seen ANY evidence of veteran-bashing among the News Cut readership.

          • Frank

            OK

          • Jerry

            There has been exactly zero veteran bashing here. You can honor the veterans while being cynical of militarism.

          • Frank

            OK

          • Jerry

            I’m glad you agree

          • Warning.

          • Rob

            If you and your fellow vets’ go-to source is Fox News, you are suffering from a dearth of accurate, reality-based information. Your assertion that “Trump is gonna pull this thing off” suggests that you’re unaware of the negative effects his imposition of tariffs has already had on U.S. businesses and on farmers. The WSJ, hardly a member of the leftist media, is among those continuing to call Trump out for his whack tariff actions.

          • Frank

            I expressly said I had watched CNN’s coverage. Geeze.

            I’m guessing the WSJ is pretty happy with the market’s reception to the agreement.
            https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/25/trump-we-hope-to-work-something-out-on-a-fair-trade-deal-with-europe.html

            The Dow is up again today by 141.6 (+.56%) as of an hour ago. And it sent the Nasdaq skyward too.

          • Ummm…. NASDAQ is getting crushed again today and the S&P is down in mixed activity. So that’s basically investors — smartly — saying, “wake me when you’ve got something.”

            But, yeah, it’s not unusual that stepping back from the brink always calms investors a bit. Tomorrow will be another day. One day on the market means nothing .

            I had my annual review with my financial people yesterday and they stressed — again — that even though we’re in the late stages of the economic recovery, the economy is chugging along good as it has for 10 years (from a market perspective) and that “tariffs take time to implement and work their way into the economy.”

            Then I transferred more money into the markets.

          • Frank

            The NASDAQ fell because Facebook [spit] is dropping like a rock. It was way up yesterday. But you probably knew that. But the post announcement surge in the DOW has everyone pretty happy.

            https://www.yahoo.com/news/facebook-slams-nasdaq-futures-eu-120131993.html

            I’m buying gold. It’s nearing its 52 week low price…wonder why?

          • Well NASDAQ , as you know, is tech heavy so, sure, Facebook’s problems are a big part of that. But NASDAQ has done very well lately and really hasn’t been influenced one way or the other on the trade war. Like the man said, takes a long time. I was concerned about the chip sector because the trade war had targeted them, but that’s more Asia vs. US than it is EU vs. US.

            This is earnings season right now and for the most part, that’s what influences the market. Way wayyy too early for any tariff stuff to show up in any numbers.

            I’m sure that people who might not be very sophisticated wrt markets sees certainty in a 24 hour (or even 48 or 72 hour) market swings. I see entertainment in the short term. I see money in the long term. So far, the YTD numbers for the market as a whole aren’t very good, although I’ve been lucky in health care and tech.

            Gold? Good luck. I put a ton of the portfolio in fixed assets a year ago as a hedge. I kind of wish I’d have let it ride in equities, but wake me when the recession comes and I’ll feel different.

          • Rob

            Gasp! You watched the “Trump-hating opposition leftist media?” You need to be careful – you might accidentally ingest some true facts.

          • Frank

            That’s a troll worthy comment, IMO. I said what I said.

          • kevins

            Perhaps CNN would exhibit a different tone if the president were actually trustworthy.

          • Frank

            As long as the GOP is in the White House, their tone would be the same. They were almost as hard on W, although I don’t think the hatred was quite as visceral.

          • kevins

            Biases are sometimes hard to see. You seem so certain that there is a differential tone depending on which party in is the WH. Are you sure you can be objective about that?

          • Frank

            Lol…I remember, back in the day, they were called The “Clinton News Network”.

            But c’mon…I don’t Twitter, but I’ve seen some of the tweets CNN anchors have made. They’re not even trying to couch their hatred.

            With that said, I still think Trump is wrong to exclude them. “Free media” rhetoric aside, I think CNN reporter’s are hysterically amusing and dealing with the opposition is part of a Presidents job.

          • Twitter. {spit]

          • Trump inflates his accomplishments and rebrands failures as successes. His glowing account is way premature, and other more significant tariffs that are damaging the world economy are still in place. The Washington Post has an article on his premature claims, but I expect Trump supporters think that’s fake news, too.

          • Frank

            Does the president of the EU inflate accomplishments, too? It was a joint announcement.

          • Most politicians do, but the fact is that Juncker made no promises to do anything other than continue talking toward some shared goals. It’s right in the official EU statement, which is short – only a page. But to hear Trump talk, “deals” were already made! Twitter account spake thus: “There was great warmth and feeling in the room” and says “a breakthrough has been quickly made that nobody thought possible!”

            There was no “breakthrough”. It’s just ridiculous.

    • The Resistance

      A mistake would be forgetting to return it the next day. Maybe.
      According to the RPB Dobson’s data card was taken on July 17.

    • RBHolb

      Cop made a deliberate violation of the Fourth Amendment. The card should be returned, any copies of anything on it should be destroyed, and all the cops involved–not just the one who took the card, but the ones who are doing the copying and reviewing–should be disciplined.

      I have a few strong words for the County Attorney who is waffling on this, too.

      • The question I have is who was on the other end of the phone call?

  • >>Meanwhile, the White House yesterday banned a CNN reporter from an open press event because it didn’t like the questions Kaitlin Collins had asked the president earlier.<<

    I believe Kaitlin Collins was also the pool reporter, not just representing CNN, but other news outlets…

    • The Resistance

      All of these events are connected. The president is sending a very strong message that it’s open season on the press, because he knows that the other two branches of are toothless and controlled by his party and will likely protect him and themselves, but most of the press is not. At least not at the moment.

      I am very afraid of what our Reichstag fire will look like and how we, and citizens like those in the Dodge County Sherrif’s office, will respond when that day comes.

      • Guest

        Reichstag fire = cool reference and spot on.

    • The next sentence:

      “President Trump recently refused to take questions from another CNN reporter, but Collins was acting as a pool reporter at the White House when she asked Trump about tapes which appear to show the candidate Trump arranging a payoff to a woman.

  • AL287

    I am currently reading “Fascism: A Warning” by Madeline Albright

    On page after page she details the warning signs of fascism’s beginnings and the most telling warning of all is the citizenry and government officials that just stood by and did nothing as though it was somehow de rigeur.

    In each instance it was the have nots v. the haves, the poor v. the rich, the poor feeling that somehow they were being left behind and the demagogue promising to come to their rescue.

    News and information were carefully controlled or suppressed altogether.

    We know the drill and we’ve seen it too many times over the last 100 years to not recognize the telltale signs of it over the last eighteen months in the United States.

    The looming question is: Are we alarmed enough to do something about it?

  • Erik Petersen

    They don’t teach these second string high school free safeties the Constitution when they matriculate into POST school at the local votech. And they never teach them after, either.

    • The Resistance

      Untrue. If the POST school receives federal funds that school is required to have a program on the Constitution. The quality of the program may vary, but they all have exposure to the Constitution. That was a part of Robert Byrd’s Constitution Day law. Apparently, those cards are also not big sellers at Hallmark.

      • Laurie K.

        Right, the required “training” is one day…it takes a full day to read and comprehend the constitution. Also, as you pointed out, the law and accompanying regulations are incredibly flexible, allowing institutions to do just about anything to commemorate the Constitution’s birthday and remain Title IV eligible. I am not sure how much education any of these future officers are receiving based on the Robert Byrd Constitution Day provision.

        • The Resistance

          A slow reader can read the Constitution in 30 minutes. And the language it is written in is very readable. And if they went 12 years of public school they would have had exposure to it many times.
          Not knowing the law (Constitution) is no excuse for not abiding by it. No American gets a free pass for not knowing the Constitution. Not even the good men and women of the Dodge County Sherrif’s department.

          • Laurie K.

            I disagree with your time analysis on how long it takes to read AND comprehend the Constitution. I agree that not knowing the Constitution is not an excuse, I was merely pointing out that the Robert Byrd Constitution provision is not necessarily providing future law enforcement officers with the necessary tools to understand the Constitution of the United States.

          • The Resistance

            I’m not arguing that the Byrd law is a Master Class in the Constitution. It’s just another tool. Prior to 2004 police officers were required to know the laws they were enforcing also.

          • Laurie K.

            My argument is that it is barely a tool – an educational institution could literally have cake and balloons and call it a commemoration of the Constitution as required by the provision.

          • The Resistance

            I don’t disagree. I wish every school was required to teach a comprehensive course on the Constitution. As a nation, we are woefully ignorant of it. A good starting point would be to check in with our own public school to see how they teach it and if it’s a weak program to advocate for a program with more teeth. The schools in my district use the NEA guidelines which are a decent starting point.

    • lindblomeagles

      If understanding the Constitution was the only problem, things would be simpler. But, it isn’t. One must understand this very real fact about the United States – it started as a country where women and slaves had no rights, Native Americans had some rights, and white settlers had some more rights. The Declaration of Independence (the document everybody REALLY SHOULD READ) was the national call for individual rights/freedom rising above the state’s stated or unstated agenda. 13 years later, a Bill of Rights was included to ensure those individual rights could not be infringed upon by the State. Since then, our nation has tried to live up to that, slowly, but surely, granting individual freedom and liberty to just about all Americans until, that is, Trump’s election, where, all of a sudden, Trump and his supporters have delivered 3 false narratives: 1) that their individual rights were revoked for years by the media and liberals; 2) that honor and respect should be given to those who give their lives in service to the country; 3) that there is a pervasive media led conspiracy to prematurely end Trump’s time in office. The truth is the opposite of these false narratives because Trump and his followers were prevented from taking liberty and freedom from people of color, law enforcement and elected officials do not fight military aggressors the way our true service men and women do, and Trump’s secrets and false statements have led to his exposure as somebody who is less worthy of our trust and admiration.

  • John F.

    For everyone comparing these events to fascism/Hitler/Nazi Germany – STOP.
    As a Jew and a professional historian, I am tired of hearing weak analogies between what is happening today and what happened in the 1930s. Most attempts to compare Nazis to something that isn’t Nazism continues to cheapen the suffering, torture and death of millions of my people.

    I am by no means defending actions by the current administration or the current state of things. Be angry, be alarmed, and be vocal. But PLEASE, find a more appropriate analogy.

    • Joseph

      What do you suggest as an alternative?

      • John F.

        Unfortunately, I don’t have one to give you right now. The problem with historical analogies is that they are often difficult to nail down, as events generally have many different variables that lead to their fruition. I often struggle with finding appropriate analogies for current events, as the current events have their own unique set of conditions.

    • The Resistance

      With respect, I do not think it is improper to compare fascist behavior by the current administration to fascist behavior in 1930s Germany. To truly honor holocaust victims we need to make their memory into a living testimony; a reminder that “never again” means not letting the current administration’s actions denigrate another’s humanity.

      Although I am not a Jew, my people were also decimated in the holocaust by the Nazis. I want everyone to learn from their history. No single group owns the holocaust. But we all share the responsibility to make sure nothing remotely like it happens again. I reference that history because there are very distinct contemporary parallels to how the Nazis came to power. I want people to learn from that experience and how we can avoid it.

      • John F.

        /With respect, I do not think it is improper to compare fascist behavior by the current administration to fascist behavior in 1930s Germany./

        This is where we are going to disagree. I would just ask that you use historical analogies with care.

        • The Resistance

          Thank you. I think we will disagree and I respect that. I realize that many people disagree with my ideas. What I don’t respect is someone telling me to “STOP”. As you say, we all should be angry, be alarmed, and be vocal. We can do that without attempting to silence others and without acknowledging that not only Jews suffered in the holocaust.

          I take your point that we should use historical analogies with care. But I think it is also important that we acknowledge historical analogies where they do exist. This can be a hard needle to thread, but it is very possible.

          I appreciate your thoughtful tone and I hope you understand that my fervor is not an attempt to diminish the suffering of anyone.

          • John F.

            As you can imagine, I get a bit worked up about this kind of thing.

            Thanks again for the civil tone. As much as I would enjoy a good historical debate, I have pushed off work long enough this morning. I will leave any further conversation to others. 🙂

          • The Resistance

            I can work myself up into a froth as well.
            We can both agree that we are horrible procrastinators today.

    • Germany in WWII was certainly fascism. But fascism isn’t a synonym for Hitler/Nazi Germany.

      • John F.

        /But fascism isn’t a synonym for Hitler/Nazi Germany./

        This is true. However it strikes me that when some folks use the word “fascism”, they often aren’t referring to Italy or Spain during the same time period.

        • The Resistance

          Fascism is an ideology, not a person or place. I think most people understand that. Hitler’s Germany just happens to be one of its most dramatic examples, which makes it a common point of reference.

        • Jerry

          All Nazis are fascist, but not all fascists are Nazis. I prefer to use the term fascist, because anti-semitism is a pretty core part of nazism, and while some of Trumps supporters are anti-Semitic, others a more diverse in their bigotries.

          • These days it seems hard to keep all the various bigotries straight. Odd times.

    • Mike

      I agree. For decades now, the Democrats have accused the Republicans of being fascist, and the Republicans have accused the Democrats of being socialist. Neither is really true.

      What is true (in my opinion) is that the partisan drama obscures abuses of power by both parties. The Democrats ignore abuses by their officeholders, ditto the Republicans. The partisanship also obscures what I believe is an evident fact: the establishments of both parties are just two faces of an oligarchy that rules this country.

    • RBHolb

      I don’t like the cheapening of terms like “fascist.” However, fascism started somewhere/somehow. It did not spring into being full-blown, overnight.

  • RBHolb

    I used to teach a class on commercial law to graphic design students. In response to popular demand and a lot of questions from students, I included a unit on photography, with special emphasis on where and when you can take photographs, and what The Man can do about it.

    I told them that a warrantless search of a person is lawful only when done in conjunction with a lawful arrest. A police officer or, just as often, a private security guard, has no right to demand that a photographer turn over a camera or a memory card unless the photographer is under arrest. Even then, the mere act of taking pictures does not justify an arrest, unless the photographer is actually interfering with the actions of law enforcement.

    The US Justice Department issued guidelines for law enforcement in this area. It was, however, an Obama-era initiative, so I think we can guess where that has been filed.

  • Erik Petersen

    A votech educated police officer in Dodge county bullying a citizen or journalist is not a fascist artifact. That’s just mundane day to day cop stuff, that’s what they do.

    A bunch of votech educated cops in Ohio arresting Stormy at an appearance because its all ‘MAGA’, and not because they had instructions from DC to do so… …. yeah, that is basically an artifact of fascism

  • EarthToBobby

    And with that, Lou Dobbs loses all credibility; what little he may have had left.

    • Rob

      Dobbs has been a credibility hole for a long time.

  • lindblomeagles

    The Sheriff’s Department MUST give the camera back immediately, undamaged and untainted. Dobson is right. There is absolutely no justification for taking his camera and not giving the camera back to him. This story needs to go national, and we all, Dems and Republicans, need to stop the attack Trump is waging against the Press. This IS NOT an anti-Donald Trump thing, so please don’t write me about Obama, or Clinton, or Dayton, or anybody else. This is an attack against our freedoms, TRUE ATTACK (like forcing the NFL players to stand for the National Anthem). None of us our safe, supporters likewise, when those in power desire we question nothing and give our possessions to them WITHOUT cause.