Why aren’t you stopping for school buses, Minnesota?

This tweet today from the Roseville Police Department is particularly upsetting in light of last week’s incident near Thief River Falls in which a seven-year-old boy was killed while crossing the street to get the bus.

It really can’t be that people don’t know the rules about stopping for buses, could it? The “stop” sign would seem to be a clue on what driver’s need to do.

No, the tweet suggests that people were in a hurry.

Giving drivers the benefit of the doubt, the department included a how-to guide on mastering the procedures:

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Related: ‘Impatient BMW driver gets what’s his’ video sparks debate (KARE)

  • Mike
    • Anna

      The inequality in the justice system persists despite efforts by leaders in communities of color to get equal treatment under the law.

      Justice will never be truly “blind” until we correct the imbalances in our society and that includes income inequality, outrageous housing prices and equal pay for women.

      Perhaps the questions of when and where to stop for a school bus stop sign should be on a written driver’s license test if it isn’t already and if you miss any one of those questions you fail the test.

      That would definitely get people’s attention.

      • Ben

        I like your idea of certain weighted questions on the test.

  • LieutenantLefse

    I’ve stopped behind signaling school buses only to have the cars behind swerve around to pass both me and the bus. I can’t even.

  • jon

    People don’t seem to have as many issues stopping for actual stop signs.

    Maybe the threat of getting hit by another car is worse than the threat of hitting a child…

    • Thomas Mercier

      Kids have much less mass.

      • jon

        Cars are getting lighter and more fuel efficient… kids are getting heavier according to the obesity studies… maybe this is a problem that will solve it self? 🙂

    • Barton

      people have a lot of issues stopping for actual stop signs. Most roll through them like they are yield signs.

  • Zachary

    I remember going to work one morning, a few years ago, and I’m approaching the T-intersection (I’m on a side road off the main road) the Bus is approaching from my left, the kids are standing there. I have a stop sign, so I stop, and not knowing what to do in this situation (I want to turn right, but don’t know if pulling out in front of the bus is OK) I sit and wait. Some yahoo comes up behind me, honks, drives around me and turns right.

  • Dimitri Drekonja

    Commute times are the worst; everyone seems to be running 5 minutes late and is willing to run the stop sign/red light/school bus. I run in the AM along minnehaha creek and certain intersections (Cedar Ave!) you can predict 1-2 cars running red per cycle

    • Kassie

      Cedar is the worst right there. Why is the speed limit 35?!?!?!? (I actually know the answer and am slowly working on trying to get it lowered.)

      • Jerry

        It takes a long time to sneak out and repaint all the signs in the middle of the night.

        • Kassie

          If you would help me, it wouldn’t take so long. But noooo…..

      • Huh, I live right by there and didn’t realize it was 35…I need to start speeding up…

        😉

  • Jack

    Link to the BMW driver was quite interesting. Would love to see the accident report on that one.

    In more than one country (hey – US can’t claim a monopoly on this one) I’ve seen someone speed by and pass recklessly only to end up in an accident further down the road. This guy was lucky – he walked away.

  • Barton

    On Monday, as I cycled home from work, I stopped for a school bus that had its Stop sign extended (it was also a 4-way stop). The car driver behind me leaned loudly on his horn, revved his engine then drove around me, window down screaming at me to pay attention to the rules of the road, and right past both the stop sign and the bus.

    Okay, buddy, whatever. He didn’t hurt the kids, but I could tell he scared them.

  • Mark in Ohio

    I can’t say anything justifying traffic following a school bus not stopping, but opposing traffic may have a good reason not to top. In many states, opposing traffic doesn’t have to stop, and people don’t read all of the fine details when they move between states. The link below, which includes the figure you posted, says that almost all states require that opposing vehicles stop on divided roadways. When you proceed to the discussion that follows, you find that they over-stated their case and that many more states don’t require traffic in opposing directions to stop. With people moving around, these sorts of little differences can cause confusion.
    http://www.drive-safely.net/school-bus-laws/

  • Some guy named Jerry sent me an email. I guess he didn’t want to post it here. I’m posting it here:

    I moved here from Texas 4 years ago. I’ve been all over the U.S. It’s my opinion that Minnesotans are most discourteous and reckless drivers in the Western Hemisphere. Standing in line at the grocery store they won’t look at you or talk to anyone, but when they drive off they are hellbent to be aggressive drivers and – in their mind – if they get lucky run over an innocent school child. This is the damnedest thing I’ve ever observed in a regional culture. People need to be called out on this, and your half-hearted, painty-waist article only serves to excuse this atrocious and inexcusable behavior. Next time, please, “cry aloud and spare not” and call rank criminal behavior what it is.

    • Anna

      He’s obviously never driven in Louisiana.

      There are many smaller insurance companies that will not write auto policies in Louisiana because of the insurance fraud down there.

    • Jerry

      Just for the record, that wasn’t me.

  • 212944

    I will just copy-and-paste what I posted to your “St. Paul, 4:53 p.m.” entry a few days ago:

    “One thing you rarely see any more … police departments enforcing traffic laws in the Twin Cities. I occasionally see state troopers running radar on the interstates or sitting on the shoulder of one. But rarely any city departments actively and visibly enforcing.

    Want to see drivers stop “blocking the box” at intersections or blowing through stop lights and stop signs or texting/shaving in the rear view at 50 mph/reading a book (yes, open across the steering wheel)?

    Start writing tickets to enforce the laws on the books. Obviously, many among us aren’t willing or able to do it without it.

    It is a convenience issue, but more than that it is a safety issue. And I bet traffic would move better and more predictably as well.”

  • Mike Worcester

    My fiance on Friday (yesterday) called in someone who *passed her on the shoulder* while she was stopped for a bus which was coming from the opposite direction with its Stop Arm out. Sounds like the other driver will get a citation. Hope so.