No chemtrail classes in Minneapolis adult education offerings

Minneapolis Community Education wasn’t lying on the front cover of its fall adult enrichment classes brochure; it definitely offered something “different.”

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There are the usual classes in how to care for hardwood floors, learning Microsoft Excel, and cooking with cast iron pans.

But these are the ones that caught some attention, particularly since they were highlighted in the brochure.

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In the world of tinfoil hats, no subject is more “out there” than the theory that the contrails from jets are actually chemicals from sinister forces intended to re-engineer our climate. Or maybe more.

We’ll never know, apparently, MCE has canceled the classes. That leaves an unanswered question: Who got to them?

Likely not included in the planned class was this: In a study last week, 77 scientists looked into the conspiracy theory. Seventy-six of them said there’s no evidence of it, Smithsonian reported.

The identity of the holdout isn’t known. But he/she won’t be teaching a class at Jefferson.

How did the classes get scheduled in the first place?

The adult education office reported that they don’t know. The hiring coordinator who was in charge of finding staff to teach the class resigned over the summer.

In a letter to those who objected to the class, MCE said it was unable to insure a balanced presentation around the topic, so it decided to cancel the classes.

[Update 4 p.m. ]– Statement from Minneapolis Public Schools:

“MCE cancelled our “chemtrails” classes because they shouldn’t have been scheduled in the first place. We didn’t follow our standard review process for class offerings and they ended up being scheduled. The classes didn’t meet our criteria; we’ve since corrected our error and strengthened our process. There are more than 800 other activities and classes happening this fall, and we invite people see what we have to offer.”

  • Dave S.

    More importantly, who got to those 76 scientists?

    • *eyes shift back and forth*

    • Ben Chorn

      You don’t need a degree to CALL yourself a scientist. There’s also people who get PhD’s from religious (not accredited) ‘universities’ that also claim to be doctors in their study. Not that uncommon when you start looking into things like climate change propaganda, chemtrails, 9/11 truthers, etc.

      • BJ

        The actual report, journal article, doesn’t call them scientist’s by the way – they call them expert respondents.
        In the actual journal, link below, they even list all the the expert respondents.

        http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/8/084011/meta;jsessionid=C0C64AAE35A2D269D1DBA2FAABCBB416.c4.iopscience.cld.iop.org#

        You will find in the above link a quote from the one expert – explaining why they said yes when the others said no (read the actual question asked, and the quote).

        • Ben Chorn

          I misread the quote- I thought it was scientists in support of there being chemtrails.

          I have someone I am friends with on Facebook who every couple months posts about chemtrails, and the false claims came flooding back to me. I’ve dealt a lot with people misconstruing science or believing claims made under the guise of ‘a scientist’.

    • MikeB

      That’s the class that is needed.

  • Anna

    This is something you would expect to see in the National Enquirer or on the Drudge Report, not in a Minnesota continuing education brochure.

    We suspect those folks have a few screws loose but there are enough people out there who read these marginal journalism efforts to keep them in business.

    The bigger worry is if anyone actually signed up to take these courses.

    This does not bode well for our educational system. 🙁

    • jon

      I’d totally sign up!

      I really want to know how this fits in with Global climate change.
      Is climate change is a myth, and “Geo-engineering” is a reality?

      • BJ

        Climate change is real, these people are saying it is the result of ‘geo-engineering’, not not just everything else we are doing.

        Here’s what I don’t get – proven science says burning fossil fuels and other things cause temps to go up, Climate change, but someone here is ‘helping’ this along by adding other things to jet fuels?

        The gain is what, a faster death and destruction of the planet?

        • jon

          https://twitter.com/TheBillyWest/status/768545614468567041

          Seriously though, climate change is real, and so is Geoengineering… (see: http://inhabitat.com/rogue-geoengineering-experiment-creates-massive-algae-bloom-in-pacific-ocean/ )

          But when either is placed in a class about ChemTrails I’m certain the rules change, we’ve left reality behind and I want to see what this new reality looks like.

        • Rain Bojangles

          If it is going on, the gain is all the money made from illness. Not that much money in death, but chronic illness, there’s your cash cow that many industries are milking and many others are enabling.

          • BJ

            Sure people make money from illness, but it doesn’t appear to be the same people accused of ‘geo-engineering’.

            If there isn’t a clear connection from one thing to another I find it easy to say that a conspiracy is NOT the answer.

  • BJ

    Holy mackerel – the comments section of the smithsonianmag is crazy people heaven.

    People have zero understanding of science.

    I’m trying to figure out if there are even enough planes flying in enough places for what people think they are doing to the environment to actually happen, I don’t think so by about 10000%, at least.

  • KariBemidji

    2016 is stealing all of its plot lines from Parks and Rec.
    https://youtu.be/QUcJSfS9YWw

  • >>The identity of the holdout isn’t known. But he/she won’t be teaching a class at Jefferson.<<

    I'm pretty sure it's this guy:

  • Brian Simon

    In other news my seven year old told me the earth is flat, because a camp counselor told him so. Sigh.

    • Ben Chorn

      Did you tell them that smokestacks are cloud making machines yet?

    • jon

      My grandfather claimed to be a flat earther…
      I don’t know if he really bought into it or not, but he certainly argued with us kids about it…

      I think he may have been teaching us critical thinking skills…

    • Veronica

      My 10 year old is holding tight to the idea that evolution isn’t a real thing.

  • Gary F

    Art Bell had another commitment.

  • Kassie

    Not to worry, Hopkins Community Ed is still offering the classes.

    • HOLY CATS!

      Ha! You’re right. Page 22 in the Com Ed catalog.

      https://issuu.com/hopkinsschools/docs/adultcatalog_944e5d0dfa3b59

      Maybe I should take that class. I work over by Hopkins.

      *ponder*

    • helena

      Wow…there it is under “Hobbies and Special Interests”, also highlighted as NEW!

    • KTFoley

      And there’s an instructor listed! That person is “is a Spiritual Life/Wellness Coach and a Waldorf Teacher.”

      • Kassie

        Anyone surprised she teaches Waldorf? Not me. Google tells me she is also a Unitarian Pastor.

  • JWS

    In all seriousness, can anyone with inside knowledge speak to the minimum standards used for hiring these instructors (read:background checks/felonies/etc since many of these classes are open enrollment for children as well), and/or how the classes are edited and selected for proposal to our community?

    • Applicants submit a class proposal, are administered a BG check, and generally are interviewed.

      If everything is up to snuff, they can teach the class.

      /Was part of Comm Ed for a large community south of the MN river.

    • I was wondering about this too, since my toddler and I are taking an ECFE class soon. I know the ECFE program is pretty widely respected/recommended, so I want to believe that it’s not tainted by whatever lapse in scrutiny allowed those classes to make it through the vetting process.

      • John

        I don’t know about your location, but when my kids were little, and we took an ECFE class, it was taught by people with teaching/child care certifications.

        Unlike most of the rest of the community ed offerings, that one had significant requirements. (It also had dedicated space, and was sort of co-run by the school, so it was somewhat more professional than a typical community ed class). I’m pretty sure first aid training courses have similar expectations of their instructors (In that case, they have to be certified as trainers, or they can’t give out certification in first aid/CPR).

      • PaulK

        I highly recommend ECFE, all my kids were in it, and we still have close friends from the program 10+ years after our youngest ‘graduated’ to kindergarden.

      • Veronica

        I collaborate with one of the district ECFE programs, and I promise they love science.

        • Thank you for the reassurance. I’ve definitely gotten the sense from friends who have taken ECFE classes that the instructors are much more rigorously trained/vetted than the people who teach the more “fun” classes, but it’s good to hear from someone directly involved. I’m really looking forward to our class.

  • Katie B

    Hopefully, the public outcry against antieducation being presented as education was what got to them.

  • Kurt O

    Chemtrails are a total crock, but contrails actually affect surface temperatures slightly.

    When all air traffic was grounded after 9/11 the sky was contrail free. Average daytime temps rose a few hundredths of a degree and nighttime lows fell a few degrees. Not really a huge difference, but interesting:

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/contrail-effect.html

  • joetron2030

    I did a double-take when I saw this in the St. Louis Park Community Ed. catalog recently:

    Ghost Hunting 101

    Learn the basics of ghost hunting! You’ll see evidence from actual investigations, discover what equipment works best, and learn investigation ethics and proper investigating techniques. What does it take to run an investigation? We’ll cover what you need to know from start to finish. You’ll even have a chance to get hands-on experience with equipment and techniques during a mini investigation in the second class.

    https://slp.thatscommunityed.com/course/adult-enrichment-2016-2017/ghost-hunting-101

    Then, they doubled down with the 102 class:

    https://slp.thatscommunityed.com/course/adult-enrichment-2016-2017/ghost-hunting-102

      • joetron2030

        I bet he can bring in some great guest lecturers from the past!

      • Bob Sinclair

        Funny, he looks more like a large. (rimshot)

      • Anna

        Why do I suspect that his abbreviated contract had something to do with his “other” business?

    • John

      I kinda want to know what equipment works best, in “actual investigations.”

      Also – proper investigation techniques. Actually, I want to know what improper investigation techniques are. That’s more interesting.

  • Paul

    LOOK! I found their flight plans!

    We’re already dead!

  • Doug Weiler

    From my old NWA cockpit…… just kidding Bob!!!!!!!!

    • John

      we know that’s fake. They don’t need a switch. In order to get to the right concentration, they have to be on all the time.

  • Ann Logan Crossland

    I don’t understand why chemtrails are considered a “tin foil hat” or “out there” discussion when funded geo-engineers such as David Keith are openly discussing it, as well as the CIA director (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-zJH1_–rY, a former Canadian Prime Minister, USAF whistleblower, etc. Does anybody do their research or just jump on the conspiracy theory band wagon?

    • Colophon

      I’m sure most people who have looked into chemtrails are well aware of geoengineering, seeing as the chemtrail people have tried their best to hijack the term! There are two very good reasons that “chemtrails” cannot be anything to do with geoengineering:
      1) Geoengineering (solar radiation management) has never been carried out in the real world. It doesn’t exist except in theories and computer models.
      2) If geoengineering *does* ever start, it won’t produce trails in the sky. It would be done at twice the altitude of commercial airliners, up in the stratosphere, where the air is far too dry for contrail formation.

      The chemtrail people say that trails that persist and form clouds are “chemtrails”, when in fact that behaviour is the hallmark of contrails, and certainly wouldn’t be created by solar radiation management!

    • Rain Bojangles

      Because denial runs deep in those who dismiss anything that does not fit into their pat little paradigm of scienterrific proof. Google “coal fly ash” if you want to know one of the worst poisons emanating from jet exhaust. Wake up, look up, and don’t be sheeple, people.

      • George Edward Booker

        Coal powered air craft?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_ash

      • Colophon

        The “coal fly ash” thing seems to have started with a hoax article on the internet, and has recently been picked up by a rather “out-there” (to put it kindly) former scientist named Marvin Herndon. He keeps writing papers about it for pay-to-publish journals, and they keep getting retracted, because he has a complete lack of scientific rigour. In other words, he’s making it up.

  • Rob

    The truth is out there – in Area 51…

  • Disqustd

    How many of their other classes have the same bad science as their foundation?