What do you think of the Wall Street protests?

The “Occupy Wall Street” protests in New York have inspired similar demonstrations across the country. One such event is reportedly planned for downtown Minneapolis this Friday. Today’s Question: What do you think of the Wall Street protests?

  • Clark

    From what I can tell their demands are numerous

    Free homes

    Free university education

    Free health care

    Free money

    Free transportation

    Arrest all bankers and send to the gulag

    Create jobs that are high wages but low work volume

    No more oil so we can all walk or bike

    Better head to work and earn money so I can support more freeloaders.

  • Hiram

    It’s a shame they haven’t shut the place down.

  • Kurt

    Tea Party Envy Syndrome.

  • Emery

    Modern protesters do not know how to protest anymore.

    Take something like the Civil Rights movement. People marched in their Sunday best and made sure that the message itself was the only thing that challenged society. This was why the images of them getting hit with fire hoses were so strong. By being presentable and on point, they could enter the national consciousness without inspiring revulsion and at the same time make the reaction of the people who opposed their message seem more extreme.

    Protests like this always hand the public easy reasons to dismiss them out of hand. And the news stories inevitably go something like, “the protest is supposed to be about A, but we saw various crazy people protesting B,C, and D.” It makes it look like the protesters don’t actually care about A.

  • Go for it!

  • Zach

    The protest looks less like Tahrir Square than the remnants of an urban Burning Man.

  • Steve the Cynic

    “Better head to work and earn money so I can support more freeloaders.”

    Freeloaders, you mean, like financial services executives who take in huge incomes without actually producing anything of value?

  • Wade

    I don’t care about them what so ever. I’ve got more important things to worry about.

    I’ve got a walleye tourney this coming weekend I don’t know where the “fat bottom girls” are hiding.

  • Fran

    Yay!

    This is “organic”, from the people, not like the corporately funded “Tea Partiers”.

    Corporations make wonderful servants, but they are a nightmare as “Overlords”.

    Legalize and let alone hemp/cannabis.

    The single most powerful act to “create jobs” would be to allow and promote the nation-wide and global-round cultivation of cannabis for every useful and beneficial purpose!!

  • We, the 99% should all be in the street protesting.

    Wall Streeters should be rounded up and sent to re-education camps in the countryside, and made to sing daily Woody Guthrie’s “Do Re Mi.”

  • Will

    The people in this country need to wake up and support the folks fighting to save our democracy. Maybe, the 99% isn’t going to take it anymore from the top 1%.

  • Lisa

    Initially I was not certain what the point was of these protests. Now I find myself 100% in support of the protestors because if I was their age I would be joining them against the corporate greed and lack of jobs in this country.

  • Philip

    I’m trying to decide if Wall Street is a reflection of the population or the reverse. I have heard two examples today of people who are trying to move into another house in a different state and had their attorney’s tell them to go ahead and let their homes here go into foreclosure.

    We whine about the greed of Wall Street, but the average schmuck is exactly the same, from the CEO to the attorney to the seller. So while I think the protesting of Wall Street has merit, we would do well to look at our own behavior, too. Behavior like paying our bills, not living beyond our means, using credit only if it can be paid off within the next billing cycle, etc.

  • Steve the Cynic

    To answer the question, I think it’s good that some folks are trying to balance the influence of the Tea Party. However, the answer to extremism on one side is not extremism on the other. Sadly, we seem to be moving toward more polarization. If we don’t stop, the end point on this path is civil war.

  • Amos of Tekoa

    Alas for those who are at ease in Manhattan, and for those who feel secure on Capitol Hill, the notables of the first of the nation, to whom the citizenry of America resorts! Consider the fall of ancient Rome and see; from there go to the great Mongol empire; then go back to the mighty dynasties of China. Are you better than these kingdoms? Or is your territory greater than their territory, O you that put far away the evil day, and bring near a reign of violence? Alas for those who lie on beds of ivory, and lounge on their couches, and eat fine imported cheese and fresh veal; who listen to idle songs on their I-Pods, and like Liberace improvise on instruments of music; who drink wine from bowls, and anoint themselves with the finest oils, but are not grieved over the ruin of America! Therefore they shall now be the first to go into exile, and the revelry of the loungers shall pass away.

  • Greg Kapphahn

    “Occupy Wall Street” is what the “Tea Party” would and should be if the Tea party folks had a clue about what the sources of their problems and frustration really are.

    If the “Occupy Wall Street” folks are able to impact national economic and governmental policy, things will get better for all of us.

    To the extent that the “Tea Party” folks have been able to influence national economic and governmental policy, things have gotten and will continue to get much worse for all of us (including the Tea party folks, themselves).

  • The Colonel

    The solution is to restrict campaign contributions to persons who can vote. Currently corporations, labor unions, PACs all flood the scene with money. The Supreme Court has said they have a free speech right to do so. This is based on the legal fiction that they are “persons.” By limiting legal contributions to persons who actually can vote, that will limit some of this financial flood. In the current state a populist response is almost inevitable. By changing the financing laws in a way that doesn’t offend the SC’s definition of personal free speech, it will balance some of the polarizing pressures. It will not, of course, address the disparate influence of wealthy individuals, but at least it will be their own money and not corporate souces of funding.

  • Steve

    If we look back on American History…. All positive improvements started as public demonstrations… The first was the American Revolution that separated us from England… more recently civil rights and the end of the Vietnam war….

    On another point…

    I would like to ask the MPR staff to think about this. Comments here are easy to do when identity is hidden. Change this forum to the standards that newspapers are (at least use to be held to) that a letter to editor could not be published without full name listed at the bottom. Only sources for articles are protected in the press.

    A lot of the not fact based statements would go away.

  • erin

    The worst part of this is that it should change something, but it won’t. CEOs who are making such huge amounts of $ and who are only really productive for about 45 minutes a day should become a thing of the past. Corporations who make all their revenue in this country but yet supply us with few jobs and pay no taxes should be a thing of the past, sadly it will just continue, because the American public has become deaf to the politics that bind us.

  • Scott Oppenheimer the Skeptical Optimyst

    “The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion” – Albert Camus

    This is an organic response to a dysfunctional system. The Tea Party is a corporate nursed bunch of well-intended but scared, misinformed idiots.

    “Those who, while they disapprove of the character and measures of a government, yield to it their allegiance and support are undoubtedly its most conscientious supporters, and so frequently the most serious obstacles to reform.”

    – Henry David Thoreau

    A, B, C, and D don’t exist without Oxytocin, Cannabinoids, Serotonin, and Dimethyltryptamine.

    “If the words “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” don’t include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn’t worth the hemp it was written on.”

    – Terence McKenna

    Waking up to a system designed to fail is not a polar perspective. Just a symptom of realization.

    When you are torn between two mutually exclusive options, you are missing a third one in which the two can be assimilated making 3=1. -Swami Veda Bharati

    Addressing the people’s right to grow Cannabis/Hemp is one of the most important realizations that will be revealed and expressed. The world’s most useful and versatile plant is one heck of an elephant in the living room. Americans (and the world) have been living off an increasingly “red herringed” diet since 1906.

    “We shall, by and by, want a world of hemp more for our own consumption.” – John Adams, 2nd U.S. President

  • Neil C.

    Several random thoughts.

    1) It’s about time they did some protesting. Many 20-somethings have tons of school debt and really limited prospects. I’m glad they aren’t all just sitting in their parents’ basements watching Big Brother.

    2) Their incoherent message is about what you would expect from the “Useless Generation.” Maybe if they keep talking and keep working at it they will gain some traction.

    3) Let’s not give them too much attention until they do get a little bit coherent. It isn’t really a movement yet and isn’t very newsworthy.

  • B

    Steve, this isn’t about balancing out the Tea Party. The ideology behind the Occupy Wall Street movement has been building for at least a decade now, if not longer (much longer than the Tea Party has been around). In 2000 it was a fringe movement, because most citizens didn’t believe that our system had severe flaws. Now that we’ve all seen those flaws firsthand and are suffering because of them, people understand and are joining the movement.

    To answer the more general question at hand posed by MPR, yes – I agree with the protests. This has been a long time coming. Our predecessors learned a lesson from the Great Depression and put checks and balances on our financial systems to prevent such a crash from ever happening again. Starting in the 1980s though, we gradually and systematically began undoing all those checks and balances (ie. regulations) under the premise that they would drive greater growth, greater economic prosperity. Well yes – that potential is there. But with great potential also comes great risk – the risk of extreme economic crashes. We have to decide what we want. Do we want a system that is stable and regulated but slow-growing? Or do we want a system that allows a relative few to get extremely rich very quick but also puts the majority of society (and the world!) at risk because it is prone to big crashes?

    I know which one I want.

  • Jessie Lawson

    I am 70 years old and plan to attend Friday’s demonstration in Minneapolis, partly to help diminish the assumption that only young people are involved in this movement. These same young people, many of whom are unable to find jobs, are too readily dismissed as naive, “incoherent” in their aims, even lazy–yet it takes a lot of effort to get out there and demonstrate! As for “incoherence,” perhaps this is due to the extraordinary number and seriousness of problems we now face. When the government becomes non-functioning and the interests of the 99 percent are ignored, then it’s time to get out there and show our anger and disgust in a highly visible way.

  • Jenn

    I agree with the basic premiss, that the super-rich 1% should not be riding on the backs of the rest of us (the 99%) -but the protesters do not seem to have a cohesive statement or solution. Without that, I don’t think we’ll see any change.

  • C W G

    We don’t want bread and circuses, we want dignity and a way to make an honest living. We all wake up with 24 hours in the day, is there any living being who, in those 24 hours does something so truly worthy of the enormous compensation that such a small fraction of the population receives? I believe these protests are the first inchoate expressions of that deeply felt sense of injustice in such inequity. I am not talking about an “Eat the Rich” mentality; I believe that many people work hard and defer gratification and deserve the fruits of their labor. But the lowest workers contribute to the success of the top of the pyramid as well and should get a share of the profits. And then, they too, should pay a share; everyone needs to have a stake and contribute to the maintenance of our common good. Additionally, the concentrations of wealth that are passed on from generation to generation are creating a new aristocracy which seems to be in direct opposition to the founding principles of our country.

  • Larry M.

    Corporations are not citizens and it is a travesty of the grandest scale that the Supreme Court of the United States of America would rule that they were. It is a case if allowed to stand that could actually prove Karl Marx right that capitalism would burn itself out, it wouldn’t if the citizens through their government still had a thing to say about how this country is ran and reigned in the power of the corporatists. As it stands the country has put itself up for sale, not unlike the revelation story from the bible of the whore of Babylon. I’m not religious anymore, but I wanted to put it into right wing speak, the country isn’t going to fall because gays marry, if it is going to fall it is because of sheer greed and the worship of the dollar and the so called “invisible hand” of the market. Which surprisingly enough is often distorted by factions on the right by subsidies for big oil and meat producers.

  • david

    I think it’s awesome and a long time coming. I want to find out where to send a box of home baked cookies for them.

    I don’t even think this generation realizes just how bad they have it. 22 years ago when I graduated high school I got a job in a factory instead of going to college. Paying for college seemed so impossible then, I’d hate to do it now. That same factory job today only pays $3 (30%) an hour more then it did then, and there are far far less of those jobs around then there used to be. At least when compared to the size of the working class population. The price of gas is 4 times what it was then, a used car is more then double. Thanks to the housing collapse a house is no longer as astronomically high anymore, only twice as much, but rent is about 3 times what it was then

    Even with a college education you’re not that much better off today. Unless you get a degree in the medical or financial industry where you get to run amok, unregulated, essentially competitionless, and with a huge army of lobbyist to keep it that way.

  • NYC GENERAL ASSEMBLY

    Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

    As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

    As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

    They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

    They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

    They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

    They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.

    They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.

    They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.

    They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.

    They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.

    They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.

    They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

    They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

    They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.

    They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.

    They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.

    They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

    They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.

    They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

    They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.

    They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.

    They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

    They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

    To the people of the world,

    We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

    Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

    To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

    Join us and make your voices heard!

    *These grievances are not all-inclusive.

  • Noam Chomsky

    The Occupy Wall Street initiative and the efforts it has spawned throughout the country are among the rare really hopeful signs that we might find a way to escape very dark times, not just the criminality and thuggishness that Wall Street has come to exemplify, but also the vicious cycle that has been gaining strength for over 30 years, undermining the prospects for decent life for the large majority while spectacular riches are pouring into very few pockets, and the remnants of real democracy are being shredded by highly concentrated wealth and power. Ominous times, and it will become worse if people just watch passively. What you are doing is an inspiration, and desperately needed.

  • David of Hopkins

    This is a reaction to corporate greed and its flagrant disregard of the results of its actions on the vast majority of the peoples of the world. On September 11, 2001, our country was attacked. We have spent the past ten years venting our national indignation and taking our revenge while never addressing the obvious question of WHY. How was it possible to get 24 otherwise intelligent individuals to spend months of planning and learning to fly an airliner knowing it was a suicide mission? Why did they hate us so much? The answer is in their choice of targets. The question has never been asked and therefore never addressed. Nothing has changed. Hence the financial/housing crisis that we are still in and hence the current protests. I applaud them and hope they have the stamina to continue.

  • Jason

    7 core demands from the Occupy Wall Street movement:

    1) End the Collusion Between Government and Large Corporations/Banks, So That Our Elected Leaders Are Actually Representing the Interests of the People (the 99%) and Not Just Their Rich Donors (the 1%).

    This will involve sweeping campaign finance reform that would limit the contributions that come in from for-profit corporations or provide equal public funding for campaign finance. It will also involve limiting the size and scope of corporations, in order to reduce the power of the 1%, reduce monopolies in critical industries and ensure no bank or other corporation is ever “too big to fail.”

    We should reverse the effects of the Citizens United Supreme Court Decision which essentially said corporations can spend as much as they want on elections. The result is that corporations can pretty much buy elections. Corporations should be highly limited in ability to contribute to political campaigns no matter what the election and no matter what the form of media.

    2) Investigate Wall Street and Hold Senior Executives Accountable for the Destruction in Wealth that has Devastated Millions of People.

    Financial fraud was very likely committed and those behind the curtain have gotten away with nothing but a slap on the wrist. We must remove the moral hazard that persists in the system and completely restructure the regulatory agencies so that they are no so easily manipulated. One common sense step would be to end the revolving door phenomenon, whereby the regulators quit their government jobs early in order to take jobs with the companies they were supposed to be regulating, resulting in a huge payoff for not enforcing the rules. Likewise, the people tasked at enforcing regulations should not be coming from the industries they will be regulating. The conflict of interest is obvious.

    We must also liquidate both the public and private debt that has been growing out of control. Most of this debt was created out of thin air and is owed to banks with interest. The problem is that there is not enough money in existence to every repay the debt. The system was designed this way and serves to concentrate wealth in the hands of the bankers, as the rest of us scramble to pay them back, plus interest. Since the debts can never really be repaid (other than with Ponzi-scheme printing), the loan contracts were never entered into with good faith and the banks offered no consideration, the loan contracts are no valid and the debt must be forgiven and canceled.

    3) Return the Power of Coining Money to the U.S. Treasury and Return to Sound Money

    The founders understood the dangers of giving a small group of private bankers the authority to print the nation’s currency. The Constitution explicitly states:

    Art. I Sec. 8 Cl. 5

    [Congress shall have Power … ] To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, …;

    Art. I Sec. 10 Cl. 1

    [No State shall …] make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; …

    The bankers found a way to subvert this law as was meticulously detailed in the book “Creature from Jekyll Island” by Edward Griffin. The top bankers in that day were aware of the power they would acquire as evidenced in this quote from Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild: “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes it’s laws.”

    Giving the ability to print unlimited amounts of money out of thin air to private bankers has been the main underlying cause of the boom bust cycles, inflation that has led to the U.S. dollar losing 95% of its value since the Federal Reserve was created, the control the banks now command over government and increasing concentration of the world’s wealth and resources in the hands of fewer and fewer people. When the protests point out the gross imbalances, such as the top 1 percent of Americans possessing a greater collective net worth than the entire bottom 90 percent, their outrage ought to be directed at the head of the banking beast, the Federal Reserve. Accordingly, we should bring the FED under total control of the people, with absolute transparency of all of its actions. Furthermore, we need to return to sound money, whether it is gold or a basket of other finite commodities. This serves to restrain out of control government spending and reduce the hidden tax of inflation on the people. This “hidden tax” affects the poor and middle class the most.

    4) Limit the Size, Scope and Power of Banks so that None are Ever Again “Too Big to Fail” and in Need to Taxpayer Bailouts

    This means moving ahead with Basel III capital requirements and adopting the Volcker Rule to limit banks’ ability to engage in risky and speculative investments. Whether this is done via HR 1489 (“RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT”) or another way, it must accomplish the main objective stated above.

    5) Eliminate “Personhood” Legal Status for Corporations

    Revise the interpretation of the famous 1886 case where the U.S. Supreme Court supposedly ruled that corporations are “persons” having the same rights as human beings based on the 14th Amendment, which was intended to protect the rights of former slaves. As most lawyers know, the Supreme Court made no such decision. In the case in question – Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company, the court itself never rules on personhood. A court reporter by the name of J.C. Bancroft Davis (a former railroad president) snuck that “ruling” into the books.

    What most people don’t know is that after the above-mentioned 1886 decision, artificial persons were held to have exactly the same legal rights as we natural folk. (Not to mention the clear advantages corporations enjoy: they can be in several places at once, for instance, and at least in theory they’re immortal.) Up until the New Deal, many laws regulating corporations were struck down under the “equal protection” clause of the 14th Amendment–in fact, that clause was invoked far more often on behalf of corporations than former slaves. Although the doctrine of personhood has been weakened since, even now lawyers argue that an attempt to sue a corporation for lying is an unconstitutional infringement on its First Amendment right to free speech. ( Nike v. Kasky.)

    6) Repeal the Patriot Act, End the War on Drugs and Protect Civil Liberties

    The constitution’s fourth amendment protects people and their property against “unreasonable search and seizure” without “probable cause”. The Patriot Act tossed the probable cause provision out the window. Now, if government agents want to read your mail, listen to your phone conversations, comb through your financial records or worse, they don’t need evidence or a search warrant; they need only say, “It’s for a terrorism investigation.” This draconian law was never about public safety. Americans’ constitutional liberties have been trashed for the war on drugs and war on terrorism.

    7) End All Imperial Wars of Aggression, Bring the Troops Home from All Countries, Cut the Military Budget and Limit The Military Role to Protection of the Homeland

    The two demands above are the key requests in order to reign in a government that has grown too large, cumbersome, bureaucratic and inefficient to serve the needs of the people.

    Parting Shot

    This list is obviously not all-inclusive, but I think these demands should be the priority and focus for the Occupy Wall Street movement. Addressing these seven issues will also address many of the other demands that protestors are making regarding healthcare, education, independent media, the environment, equal rights, flash trading, jobs, taxes, term limits, trade agreements, capital punishment, nuclear disarmament, etc. All of these should be on the table and discussed, but we need to first remove the corruption from government and collusion with the corporate world/banks, before we give them additional power or ask them to act on our behalf.

    Lastly, we need to consider the complete restructuring of our economic, political and social systems. Our current path is unsustainable and while the steps outlined above would be a giant step in the right direction, we need to start brainstorming new ideas such as The Zeitgeist Movement, The Venus Project and 2012: Time for Change.

    If you want to have an immediate impact, please consider moving your money out of the big banks and to a local non-profit credit union. If the giants don’t have funding. They can not win.

    But no matter how this movement evolves or where exactly it leads, I believe it is absolutely necessary at this critical juncture in history. I’ve been with you in cyberspace and will be joining you on the ground soon. Godspeed!

    Let me leave you with one of the most inspiring and important speeches in recorded history, given by Charlie Chaplin.

    Link

  • Jason

    I wish more attention was paid to their message. Unfortunately, public protests have always has an image problem. The participants are often portrayed as a fringe element. Yet in this case it is about an issue that affects everyone. Regardless, it seems that no matter how bad things are most people do not want to be disturbed, usually until it’s too late.

  • Gail

    I admire the protesters, and I’m with them in spirit if not in person. I agree with every point in the Declaration. The protest encampments are modern “Hoovervilles” created by concerned Americans righteously opposed to economic exploitation and the vast, immoral chasm between the rich and poor in this country.

    I wish that “the media” would learn the skills necessary to report about decentralized movements like this. It seems that without a daily press release from a central leader, reporters resort to framing purposely horizontal movements as disorganized in philosophy and structure, although filled with colorful characters.

  • CJ

    It heartens me that this generation has decided to show some spunk and some interest in their survival. We left them a crappy mess but the truth is, if they don’t fight to change things, the empire will destroy itself. That’s not to say it won’t, regardless of these efforts, but better to go down swinging for a cause worth fighting for than to lay down and die for the sins of their parents. I stand with them too, but this is clearly the passing of the torch and I’m relieved to see them pick it up.

  • GaryF

    Protest all you want. They aren’t going to change anything because some people are protesting.

    Just what are they expecting “wall street” to do?

    I get a kick out of leftists. They love to bash capitalism but then bellyache because there are no jobs or not enough tax revenue for all their programs.

    You can’t beat the golden goose and still expect it to lay golden eggs.

  • Kel Jopy

    I dont know what their message is.

    All i can tell is that they like drum jams, puppets and chanting. Seems more like some hippies want an excuse to party, not that they have any valid point to make other than rich people are bad for some reason and drum jams are fun.

    If they want people to pay attention, they should dress for business and have an articulate message.

    Their message, whatever it is, is incoherent and drowned out entirely by the drum jam party event they created instead. These people are pathetic and the very reason that the left is losing every battle they try to pretend to fight.

  • karen marie

    A lot of people are pissing on the Occupy Wall Street protests because “they don’t have a coherent message,” “they don’t have a single demand,” “they are not well dressed.”

    These protestors do not have corporate backers. They came together not because of any one thing but because of many — related — things: income inequality, privatized profit/socialized loss, lack of job opportunities, etc, etc, etc.

    The tea party people got a lot of positive coverage because they advocate for the very policies that have given rise to the conditions that the Occupy people are protesting now. Where was the media when tea party members were disrupting congressional town hall meetings back during the health care debate? They were sitting in their offices writing up stories based on the press releases the Koch brothers and the Chamber of Commerce were writing for the tea party.

    It’s about time Americans got off their asses and took to the streets. I wish I could join them in NY or Boston but I don’t have the funds to travel.

    Instead of the media — I’m looking at you Public Radio — standing around wondering what the hubbub is about, perhaps they should do some reporting on the cause and effect of soaking the bottom 99% for everything they’ve got.

  • jack Goldman

    Protests are the natural outcome of debasing the currency. Bankers, owners, and government win. Children, families, renters, and employees lose. Prices from 1971 are up 1,000%. CEO’s win. Labor is only up 500%. Families lose.

    History shows debasing the currency with unlimited debt ends in war and collapse 100% of the time. It’s no different this time. Protect yourself.

  • karen marie

    David, Occupy Wall Street asks for non-perishable food only, but perhaps you could have a bake sale and send them the funds.

    The UPS Store

    Re: Occupy Wall Street

    118A Fulton St. #205

    New York, NY 10038

    “Money orders only please, cannot cash checks yet. Non-perishable goods only. We can accept packages of any size. We’re currently low on food.”

  • Dee Ann

    I totally support their cause and will be there as a 62 year old diabled educator who has watched the take over of our Democratic system by the soulless corporations. Our political affilliation is a moot point now. The oligarch is in control and we have one generation to turn that around. Dialog and input from the voices of the 99% is inaudible to the millionaires in D.C. (55% of congress are or have become millionaires, and enjoy the lobbists revolving door for tranfer of wealth from the public coffers. My opinions and beliefs have come fromo a life time of experience as a member of the 99%. TRUST YOURSELF, but be informed and watch which voices ($$$ only) is heard and the reults of those decisions! Death of; jobs, the environment, individual rights, quality of life for any form of life on the planet, obcene profits for insurance, banking, and finacial sharks, Bogus values for PR purposes only, bait and switch pollitical rhetorical. GO OCCUPY WALL_STREET for a collective future of sustainability!

  • Kirk

    I have not followed coverage of, nor seen footage of these, but:

    ANYTHING which brings focus to this abhorrent greed trend I WELCOME!!

  • Kim

    The Wall Street protest is the most inane thing I have seen. Calling it ” organic” is amazing. Protesters were organized to appear but 99% of them as shown on news interviews shows they have no clue why they are there or openly advocate for socialism; to have government control every facet of their lives.

    Go back three months to the SEIU speech by Steven Lerner where he is on tape calling for over throwing capitalism, calling on his minions to protest at CEO’s homes, to protest at Bank Of America, cause havoc. Go back 5 weeks where ex Green Jobs Czar, ( self proclaimed communist Van Jones_ also the founder of the radical Marxist STORM group in California) gave his warning for October to unleash massive protests and civil disobedience.

    Yesterday, who do we see standing among the crowds speaking of the joys of protesters, why its one of the original Underground Weathermen, Francis Fox Piven, the Bill Ayers esteemed radical closest ally.

    And who is beefing up the protest numbers today in other cities? Surprise! Its the union leaders arranging their members to come out.

    Organic? Seriously that is laughable. They should be protesting against the unlimited powers of the Federal Reserve Bank.

    Check the Congressional records. Under Clinton a system was passed to tell banks they HAD to make no interest loans especially to minorities and under employed and poor credit risks. Banks refused so the Federal Reserve stepped in and said , ” if you don’t make your quota of these (high risk) loans, your bank’s rating number needed to access Federal Reserve loans will go down but you can minimize that down-rating by making donations to ACORN.” Later, some banks refused and ACORN is videotaped mobbing their foyers to shut down customers entering. Other banks that resisted this social engineering fiasco got more motivation to comply when the gov. got Frannie Mae to insure these bad loans.

    Credit Default Swaps were then created to bolster these bad loans, at least on paper it appeared to insure the continuing of this rather Marxist type of system to keep the bad loans rolling.

    SO_ the fact of the matter is__these protesters are largely unaware of why they are blocking traffic and going without showers for three weeks. The Unions are using class warfare to bolster their ranks just as exactly_ what Obama has been spewing in his campaign speeches.

    IF the media had done their job decades a go, we would not have the Federal Reserve with unlimited power controlling our economy as they see fit to benefit a few of the multi- billionairs. The media has never, nor as Congress, ever sought to limit the Federal Reserve’s power since JFK tried to do in the 1960’s.

    The President today appoints the Federal Reserve’s chairman from a selected list of four carefully provided from the Federal reserve’s Board. That has been the system since the Fed ( previously called_The Central Bank) was created in 1913.

    Today, no one in the public is allowed to know who the Fed’s members are that are calling the shots and giving Bernacki his talking points!

    So if the Protesters want credibility they need to demand__ a limiting __of the Federal Reserve’s independent powers as it once was back in the early 1900’s.

    Conclusion: The Wall Street protesters are funny and inept and un-infomed. They have done more harm to working class people by blocking traffic and causing now over $3 million in costs to the every day working people of New York City; costs from from police supervision, jail bookings and loss of revenue from hourly service workers who have fewer customers in that area. The Unions hurt the ones they say_ they wish to protect..sad.

  • Kim

    The Wall Street protest is the most inane thing I have seen. Calling it ” organic” is amazing. Protesters were organized to appear but 99% of them as shown on news interviews shows they have no clue why they are there or they speak of openly advocating for socialism; to have government control every facet of their lives.

    Go back three months to the SEIU speech by Steven Lerner where he is on tape calling for over throwing capitalism, calling on his minions to protest at CEO’s homes, to protest at Bank Of America, cause havoc. Go back 5 weeks where ex Green Jobs Czar, ( self proclaimed communist Van Jones_ also the founder of the radical Marxist STORM group in California) gave his warning for October to unleash massive protests and civil disobedience.

    Yesterday, who do we see standing among the crowds speaking of the joys of protesters, why its one of the original Underground Weathermen, Francis Fox Piven, the Bill Ayers esteemed radical closest ally.

    And who is beefing up the protest numbers today in other cities? Surprise! Its the union leaders arranging their members to come out.

    Organic? Seriously that is laughable. They should be protesting against the unlimited powers of the Federal Reserve Bank.

    Check the Congressional records. Under Clinton a system was passed to tell banks they HAD to make no interest loans especially to minorities and under employed and poor credit risks. Banks refused so the Federal Reserve stepped in and said , ” if you don’t make your quota of these (high risk) loans, your bank’s rating number needed to access Federal Reserve loans will go down but you can minimize that down-rating by making donations to ACORN.” Later, some banks refused and ACORN is videotaped mobbing their foyers to shut down customers entering. Other banks that resisted this social engineering fiasco got more motivation to comply when the gov. got Frannie Mae to insure these bad loans.

    Credit Default Swaps were then created to bolster these bad loans, at least on paper it appeared to insure the continuing of this rather Marxist type of system to keep the bad loans rolling.

    SO_ the fact of the matter is__these protesters are largely unaware of why they are blocking traffic and going without showers for three weeks. The Unions are using class warfare to bolster their ranks just as exactly_ what Obama has been spewing in his campaign speeches.

    IF the media had done their job decades a go, we would not have the Federal Reserve with unlimited power controlling our economy as they see fit to benefit a few of the multi- billionairs. The media has never, nor as Congress, ever sought to limit the Federal Reserve’s power since JFK tried to do in the 1960’s.

    The President today appoints the Federal Reserve’s chairman from a selected list of four carefully provided from the Federal reserve’s Board. That has been the system since the Fed ( previously called_The Central Bank) was created in 1913.

    Today, no one in the public is allowed to know who the Fed’s members are that are calling the shots and giving Bernacki his talking points!

    So if the Protesters want credibility they need to demand__ a limiting __of the Federal Reserve’s independent powers as it once was back in the early 1900’s.

    Conclusion: The Wall Street protesters are funny and inept and un-infomed. They have done more harm to working class people by blocking traffic and causing now over $3 million in costs to the every day working people of New York City; costs from from police supervision, jail bookings and loss of revenue from hourly service workers who have fewer customers in that area. The Unions hurt the ones they say_ they wish to protect..sad.

  • Debra Krzenski

    I am proud of them to protest this kind of greed. I would like to help!

    Thank you for asking the question.

  • Debra Krzenski

    I am proud of them for standing up to this kind of greed.

    I would like to help them.

    Thank you for the question.

  • kim

    This article best explains the wasted time of the protesters as they are being used unwittingly; from the Vision for America_

    “There’s no better way of deciding an outcome than owning both sides of the debate. That’s why the Wall Street-owned Obama administration must be licking its lips at the fact that ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protesters have been conned into advocating new tax policies backed by billionaires like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates that will do nothing to touch Wall Street, but everything to sink what’s left of the American middle class.

    The Occupy Wall Street protesters are campaigning for the Obama administration to “Pass the Buffett Rule on fair taxation, so the rich pay their fair share.” This demand is posted on their own website. The campaigners are demanding that the US Congress pass a bill backed by the Obama administration, which is comprised of Wall Street operatives and is a creature of Wall Street.

    Do you see the dichotomy here?

    The protesters are pushing for a new tax rule which is supported by the Wall Street-owned Obama administration, therefore the demonstrators are unwittingly doing the bidding of Wall Street itself.

    The “Buffett tax rule” will do virtually nothing to make the ‘filthy rich pay their share’ – it will only raise taxes for middle class Americans and middle class businesses.”

    Could Obama be in bed with Wall Street and the Buffet clan? Buffet says “pay more taxes” yet his billions are safely stored away from taxation in charitable funds started under under his kid’s names and also assigned to the Gates Foundation , thus the kettle calling the pot, black. he pays no taxes. Is Buffet the King of Hypocrisy while endorsing Obama’s new campaign to use class warfare?

  • Shane

    Their lack of a coherent message is not surprising. Clearly these are people who should be spending their time looking for a job.

  • Lois Braun

    It’s about time that we the people stand up against Wall Street greed and take back OUR government. We’re supposed to be “government of the people, for the people and by the people.”

  • Hunter S Thompson

    “What do you say, for instance, about a generation that has been taught that rain is poison and sex is death? If making love might be fatal and if a cool spring breeze on any summer afternoon can turn a crystal blue lake into a puddle of black poison right in front of your eyes, there is not much left except TV and relentless masturbation. It’s a strange world. Some people get rich and others eat shit and die.”

    Just as true today as it was twenty two years ago.

  • James Kerwin

    100% support. President Obama ran on a platform that government should serve the people, but in office his decisions have only served super corporations and billionaires. The corporate media, and also NPR for that matter, avoid pointing that fact out. This demonstration is trying to point out Obama’s and our government’s failure in an unmistakable way.

  • Kristi

    The protests may be messy, but let’s be clear: The anxiety and anger is well placed. I am a small business owner and parent with kids in college. The financial sector’s Goliath-like political power and lack of accountability caused the near collapse of our economy and continues to jeopardize the hopes and security of millions of Americans. When it comes to citizens who believe likewise, the Wall Street protesters are just the tip of the iceberg.

  • Joe Padden

    A Bank makes a loan and wants it paid back.

    “the bank is out $ if the loan is not paid back”

    A Bank makes a loan and “sells the loan” the bank now could care less if the loan is paid back

    Repeal of “Glass Steagall” under the Clinton Administration allowed the Banks to do this practice “sell crappy loans” that practice had been banned after the crash of 1929

    UN REPORTED

    S T O R Y

  • Scott Anderson

    It’s about time. This is grassroots, not Grover Norquist-created astroturf Fox News-promoted Tea Party insanity. It’s as American as apple pie. And the NYPD’s behavior towards the protesters proves that we don’t really live in a democracy. “To serve and protect…” Whom?

    “….We are the 99 percent. We are getting kicked out of our homes. We are forced to choose between groceries and rent. We are denied quality medical care. We are suffering from environmental pollution. We are working long hours for little pay and no rights, if we’re working at all. We are getting nothing while the other 1 percent is getting everything. We are the 99 percent. ….”

  • kim

    @Scott Anderson’s post_

    EVERY ONE SHOULD READ his note to see the real scam behind the Protest. See the bracketed truth added:

    Scott says, “….We are the 99 percent. We are getting kicked out of our homes.”

    ( Kicked out of your homes because the mortgage wasn’t being paid..why? no down payment , prices fell so no equity to refinance at a lower rate. Why didn’t they get a fixed rate for 30 years and plan ahead for slim times? Could have bought a house for half the value and paid more down, but nope, everyone seems entitled to a free lunch. duoh.)

    ” We are denied quality medical care. ”

    ( really? the USA as free medical for illegals and anyone who walks into the ER..best health care services and technology in the world)

    ” We are suffering from environmental pollution” ( really? really? Just who is suffering from pollution? The EPA even says our water and air has never been more clean..except for those who replace incandescent light bulbs with toxic mercury laden CFL bulbs per the EPA new regs. BTW, who lobbied for CFL bulbs? Yup, GE did and they set up new plants for these not in the USA but Mexico_ how is that for Hope and Change with killing American jobs?)

    “. We are working long hours for little pay and no rights, if we’re working at all. ”

    (Really? no rights? What rights would those be that you are missing? )

    “We are getting nothing while the other 1 percent is getting everything. We are the 99 percent. ….”

    (ouch_ all those 99% are all poor people? Do the poor invest their own money to start a business, to risk their_ capital and hire others? Hmmm.. nope, but some save up, get small loans, work 60 hour weeks with all their family helping and participating and THEY are not protesting or whining they work 60 hours to build their business. So? face the facts_ the Protests are set up by SEIU, Steven Lerner and communist acclaimed Van Jones which is odd since all they protest is exactly what Obama has continued to do as did Bush..cronni- capitalism, Wall Street supported; e.g., the bogus Dodd-Frank regs that only hurt small banks and small business; all to keep the elite in a financial monopoly. This has been the case ever since the Federal Reserve Bank was allowed to extend their powers with the Treasury.

    Liberal protesters should start asking, Who is the Federal Reserve and how much power do they really have?

  • Mike

    @ Kim

    Yes, organic. Go and smell the movement.

    The Fed=Corrupt Corporation(s).

  • Sarah

    I hear the overall theme of Economic Justice. That 1% owns the lobbyists. 99% want their own economic security where there isn’t such a discrepancy. I agree that it should have a more intellectual core but I’m proud of these zombie masses for recognizing they need to mass. But who will be the focusing martyr for this group? Anyone who stands up will be eliminated. I’m intrigued by this mass standing. Intellectually, I’m proud of the internet organization, but I pose initial suggestions at using that internet drive for submitting & filling out polls by the fb masses as a means to gather more concise ideas of what the constituents want to present to their representatives as counterweight to those damn lobbyists. These masses are initial starts toward a new larger discussion.

  • Sue de Nim

    Regarding Shane’s comment (“Their lack of a coherent message is not surprising. Clearly these are people who should be spending their time looking for a job.”)….

    That reminds me of Pharaoh’s accusation that the Hebrew slaves were “lazy,” and that’s why they were protesting their state of servitude. “Make them find their own straw, but don’t diminish their quota of bricks!” I.e., if they were working harder, they wouldn’t have time to object to the way they’re being treated. Read Exodus.

  • Steve the Cynic

    There’s no such thing as “too big to fail.” In fact, it’s just the opposite. Too big eventually becomes unsustainable, and what’s unsustainable eventually won’t be sustained. Without effective regulation they invariably become too big not to fail, with disastrous consequences, like we saw in 2008, and before that in 1929.

  • Kim

    I’m all for the occupation. We need to feel the organic nature of this suffering and turn it into medicine.

    Things are not as they appear, nor are they otherwise. We, the people, need to start growing Hemp ASAP!

    Jobs (of right livelihood) will spontaneously create themselves when “the War on Drugs” has ended. Creativity is our natural high state to replace greed, contemplation will replace depression, laughter and tears of joy will replace ignorance and hatred.

  • RexNearAnoka

    I wish I was one of them. One of pres obama’s principal failings has been to allow the debacle staged on wallstreet to go unpunished. I’m done waiting. My judgment is in. On this issue alone he is a failed president. Now it’s up to the protesters to bring the crucial nature of this abuse of power and wealth to the forefront. I understand that the rich get richer while the poor get poorer, but they way things are going now is ridiculous. The way corporate fat cats are ruling over us is no less than a corporate coup over the people of the US and its government. Victory of Wall Street — by any means necessary!

  • Ese

    Stop the disinformation! We the people who really love this country dont want anything free. Want we do want is justice, plain and simple! First, I was always taught in history class at school that you could be president in America if you were born in America. Well what the heck is “Barack Hussein Obama” doing as president? He clearly admits hes from Kenya! So much proof out there that this guy is a Fraud! A PUPPET AT HIS BEST! Impeach obama! Lol everything hidden in plain sight. WAKE UP ALREADY!

    Look up the film on youtube,

    The Obama Deception

  • EAL

    1) Reports from the New York protests had participants rallying against capitalism, climate change, gay/lesbian rights, etc. Not a lot of focus there. This is an old version of social networking. People clammering together just to clamor.

    2) As participants to provide a solution framed under the U.S. Constitution and most would be at a loss to do so let alone those who have never read the document that formed this Republic.

    3) Speaking of this Republic, these protests should be conducted in at the Federal and State Capitals.

    Finally, take into account the words spoken by then President Clinton at the World Economic Forum a few years back. It was one of his final speeches as President and paraphrasing his remarks, “I am convinced that the only way out of poverty for poor nations is through capitalism.”

  • Patricia

    What if the act of gathering was to represent more than just saying that the centralized power of directing our money and economy is not working but instead was the beginning of the birth of a new way of pooling our financial collective energy. That is what excites me. I am energized that people are gathering who sense that each one of us collectively can make the change to a more supportive, non-fear/protection based economy to one that honors abundance and cares for each one of us without depleting any of us. I think the internet is just one example of what can happen when power is shared and not coveted. Gather and create the new!!!

  • Robert

    I think the protests are important and necessary to communicate to our political leaders that there is dissatisfaction with the current system where economic inequality is growing and people at the bottom and in the middle are increasingly hurting. However, I’m also frustrated that, as seems to be the case with any lefty protest, every activist wants to hitch their issue onto the bandwagon — free Mumia, animal rights, etc — which ends up presenting a confusing message to the media and thereby the public. Organizers should work to ensure that the message doesn’t get diluted with everybody’s pet cause. But while we’re at it, here are mine:

    * Too big to fail is too big to exist — if a company’s failure could destroy our economy, that company needs to be responsibly broken up into several smaller companies.

    * A corporation is not a person, does not have Constitutional rights, and has no place in our political process

    * Money is not speech: the interpretation of money as speech gives a megaphone to a small wealthy minority while everyone else must speak in a whisper

    If I could afford to take time off to go to New York and join the protesters, I would.

  • Jody

    I am happy to see the national angst overr the country’s financial meltdown brought to The Street which spawned the havoc. Where are the prosecutions of these Wall Street criminals? Doesn’t anyone remember the multitudenous prosecutions of the perpetrators of the Savings and Loan disaster of the 1980’s? Those people went to prison. Where is the Department of Justice? Hank Paulsen should be the first to go — he protected his beloved Goldman Sachs to the detriment of the rest of us. So happy to see these protests — finally, maybe someone will understand our extreme distress.

  • kim MN

    Here is a good cheap shot, someone chose to post under my name or if SHE USED a similar name, didn’t bother to differentiate the name from mine.

    Obviously I did NOT write such nonsense as follows ,

    ” I’m all for the occupation. We need to feel the organic nature of this suffering and turn it into medicine….etc.”

    The Wall Street protesters have violated laws, they camp in restricted areas, they try to block bridges to stop traffic, over 700 of them have been arrested but the media idolizes them?

    The tea Party Americans were never violent, did not break laws, cleaned up the area when their protests were done, and also just as was seen at 8-28-2010 when Beck spoke with a hundred some preachers to a crowd of 300,000 American civilians and veterans at the Washington monument.

    Why is it that since 1960, it is always the Left that have law breaking protests??? Hmm?

  • GregX

    This aint no disco, this ain’t no party, this ain’t no foolin around. The revolution will not be televised. The public demonstrations are the visible residue of the revolution – not its body, not even its skin. Its happening inside people. Out of work, out of luck and out of faith with those in positions of control and authority – in business, in politics, in education, in media – going back 70 years. Those former trusted elders created the mess, measured its progress, studied its effects, reported it openly and did nothing – except as it served their business interests, election hopes and advertizing demands. Go ahead take your golden parachutes. When you land – we’ll melt them to feed the millions whose wealth you now posess.

  • Brandy

    These protests have got me excited! So much for saying that young people today aren’t motivated. The kids are alright. They have started a peaceful movement, I hope to join in some way. I hope to share these protests with my young children, so they can see what it really means to be an active American citizen.

    If you’re sitting in the coffee shop whining about your life then get up, get up! Write letters, march, protest and do so peacefully.

  • Christopher Fahey

    The problem of jobs seems simple to me. If companies create American jobs they should get a tax break, if they ship jobs elsewhere their taxes should go up. This will reward actual performance and strengthen the US.

  • Kate

    Yeah, sounds like you got us figured out, Kim.

    Fact: You may be INITIALLY treated in the ER, but hospitals are not required to do anything more than stabilize you. That’s the law. Then they ship you off to another hospital. I saw it every day. You think because you see no sick, black destitute faces in your suburban ER, that all the sick people must be taken care of. And, we have neither the best technology nor the best healthcare services in the world. I worked in a level-1 trauma center where people routinely died in the ER waiting room. It’s not the MRI…it’s the ACCESS.

    “Why didn’t they buy a 30-yr fixed mortgage?” Yeah. I did that. Got a home I can actually afford…now I owe 75,000 more than it’s worth. That’s not my fault. I didn’t devalue my property; Wall Street’s scams did that for me. I’ve not only paid my mortgage every month, on time, every time but I also pay an extra payment every year. Add to that the maintenance and improvements and I have a house that after 20 years will only be worth the sticker price, if I’m lucky. The bank will have made over a half a million dollars off of me. So much for doing the right thing.

    I steal from my neighbor, I go to jail. The corporatocracy steals from the People, gamble our national wealth and then lose it all and what happens to them? We bail them out and then go sell our gold necklaces.

    What worker’s rights are we missing?How about breaks. How about safety.

    Just because you have a job where you’re not subjected to abuse, unsafe and unsanitary conditions, a house that isn’t under water you think everyone must have it so good.

    How about you stop listening to sound bites and get out in the real world where you can actually HELP your fellow American instead of deriding what you just don’t understand.

  • Kurt

    “Some people like to go out dnacing…..other folks like us, we gotta work” Lou Reed.

    P.S. His former bassist is in the Tea Party.

  • kim

    @ Brady…..if you want to write letters, then write to the Democratic Party asking for a new candidate for 2012, one that won’t kill hundreds of thousands jobs with excess regulations from EPA to the FCC that fosters companies moving production to Mexico. One who won’t allow guaranteed loans to failing business because its a Green industry. One who won’t appoint radicals to promote the Dodd-Frank Bill which has now cost 30,000 jobs as BOA faces layoffs, when a D_ Representative goes public today to tell us to leave BOA, how is that different from fascist type of actions where the government controls who wins and loses?

    Protesters have no direction for cause and effect on these issues..they mostly cry for a Marxist state to spread the wealth even though they by age alone have never worked a full year at any honest job.

  • kim

    derp…

  • david

    B of A is a horribly run company, that’s why they are facing layoffs.

  • Steve the Cynic

    Keep writing, Kim. You’re always good for a laugh. It amuses me no end to see ideologues dig themselves into rhetorical holes they can’t get out of.

  • kim

    derp…

  • jack Goldman

    These protests are more refreshing than watching greedy bankers bilk the nation of it’s heart, soul, and wallet. I love these protesters. Fight on for social justice.

    The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is a brutal crime against humanity. What Wall Street has done is finance this brutal war and empire. The Wall Street gang commits financial crimes against humanity and should be jailed. Thirty to forty per cent interest rates on credit cards? Jail these criminals. Where are the trials? Bernie Madoff is the tip of the iceberg. Where is the justice? Where is the shame?

  • Ben

    This 99%er will be there.

    Just like I was there for the St Paul RNC protest march.

    –Ben

  • Ron Converse

    I’ve been predicting a revolution for several years now. I didn’t expect it to start this soon. If you know any history, you know that when the “wealth gap” gets to be this large the revolution will begin. This one will eventually find a leader and get better organized but here it comes.

  • Jen/Realtor

    As a Realtor watching all these home owners illegally thrown out on the streets for the past 4 years, while the banksters and servicing companies lied to these home owners saying “Oh yea your good just keep sending in this $ amount per month and your going to be fine, long enough to collect from these home owners as much in pocket then pull the rug from under them and foreclose, while the courts allow this is a shock to what I once knew… These poor people /families /kids /animals thrown out of their home and lied to by these bastards!

    Their have been families who killed their entire family thinking their was no other way out, their were people who hung themselves or put the gun against their head and pulled the trigger!! THIS IS MURDER ON THE BANKSTERS AND ALL INVOLVED. They made these people feel worthless, So think again those in doubt of what this is all about!

  • kimMN

    Are the Wall Street protesters calling for Obama to step aside for failing to correct all that he campaigned upon and for letting the country have the longest recession in history all the while supporting his friends in Wall Street?

    yet, it was Wall Street that funded the welfare state of New York for the past three decades..ouch.

  • Audrey F.

    I, too, have been predicting a revolution since the presidency of Ronald Reagan, the guy who set this country on the slippery slope to ruin. A long time to wait. When Obama was elected President, I expressed gratitude for having seen the day….I’ll feel the same way if The Revolution actually materializes.

  • CF

    The only thing wrong with these protestors is that they don’t have guns.

  • kimMN

    Don’t you folks find it a bit strange that Obama has been extremely silent on what the protesters have been doing in NYC given the 800 plus number of arrests that have been made for violence and ignoring the laws of the city while police try to maintain order?

    Obama called a beer summit for his professor friend in the first month in office but he is silent on this???

  • kimMN

    The Wall Street protesters may wish to fear Herman Caine, he could be our truly first black President

    ( contrary to the main street media’s adoration_ Obama is bi -racial as is my child)

    Contrary to Obama, Caine has lived the American dream. He worked his way up and he is _not_ like Obama_a Chicago groomed career politician or a “never worked a day in his life”- radical ,handled by the super elite of Soros, the Tide Foundation and Buffet.

    The Protesters complaining of “no work” seems funny when so many are mostly just college students from the liberal university, skipping school to make friends and to feel they belong to something. Why is SEIU, AFLCIO and ACORN groups coming to protest in other cities? Watch SEIU’s Steven Lerner speeches if in doubt. It is nothing but typical far Left tactics to instill more class warfare, promote Marxism unbeknowing to them that if they succeed, all will suffer and be serfs under an elite few in government. THAT is the Marxist way.

  • Kevin VC

    I am all in favor of the protests.

    The criminals are doing it all over again…

    The same guys who made trillions on the rest of the underclass (As Bohner says). They want the regulations removed to do it again!

    They already swindled our homes from us…

    There needs to be justice and the mechanism to stop it from happening again.

    Its not fair that the Top 2% are encountering record profits while the rest of us are still in the economic distress!!!

  • Alice Strand

    Tonight on Marketplace someone pointed out that one of the main things the protesters are railing against, the bad decision on the bank bailouts, is also one of the main complaints of the Tea Party. The truth has many sides.

  • OccupyMN

    After this Saturday’s open forum in Stevens Square Park, through a group consensus, we now stand firm in our plans to unite at the Hennepin County Government Plaza. This plaza is the new focal point for the OccupyMN movement.

    Previously our plans were to stand in solidarity with those that occupy Wall Street by rallying at the steps of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. The plan has changed to reclaim the Government Plaza as the “People’s Plaza”.

    It is time to establish a new system that values people over profits. We are the 99% and we have are to reclaim our mortgaged future.

    The Minnesota Occupation Begins:

    October 7th, 2011 at 9:00am

    The People’s Plaza

    300 South 6th Street

    Minneapolis, MN 55487-0999

    (Hennepin County Government Center Plaza)

    Support our efforts!!

    Please note, we intend to occupy for as long as it takes; this is not a one-day protest. If you can’t make it Friday, come Saturday, Sunday, Monday… we’ll be there, and we hope you will be, too!

  • kimMN

    I hope Obama and Hillary will be there in Minneapolis to show their support of protesting what they have contributed to..it will help get Obama un-elected unless_____we see a repeat of this story that previously was not shared by NPR or other media during Obama’s campaigning in 2008!

    Do a Google search to see the photos.

    “New photographs obtained exclusively by BigGovernment.com reveal that Barack Obama appeared and marched with members of the New Black Panther Party as he campaigned for president in Selma, Alabama in March 2007.

    The photographs, captured from a Flickr photo-sharing account before it was scrubbed, are the latest evidence of the mainstream media’s failure to examine Obama’s extremist ties and radical roots.

    In addition, the new images raise questions about the possible motives of the Obama administration in its infamous decision to drop the prosecution of the Panthers for voter intimidation.

    Now do you suppose the media will be touting this story far and wide as they have with this Perry non-story? You know, if they’re going to pimp that story, they should at least note Perry was a Democrat back in the 1980s but has since come to his senses. Don’t you think if a Republican presidential candidate appeared and marched with a group of virulent racists it would be front page news?”

    The Protests are a welcome thing for the GOP as it further alienates most Independents and normal Minnesotans from any Democrat leanings.

  • kimMN

    Now I understand why the Sheriff Dept. and Capital Police have recently ordered up another 150% more of the annual allotment of Mace and rubber shotgun shells….and that is good for some business, thank the SEIU and anarchist groups protesting.

    Minnesota is not New York. We are not all a group of entitlement seekers or trust fund babies as Dayton. If Protesters disrupt local business and traffic, only the Democrats will pay the price at the polls.

  • TimMn

    The Declaration of Evolution

    When in the course of organic evolution it becomes obvious that a mutational process is inevitably dissolving the physical and neurological bonds which connect the members of one generation to the past and inevitably directing them to assume among the species of Earth the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God entitle them, a decent concern for the harmony of species requires that the causes of the mutation should be declared.

    We hold these truths to be self evident:

    *That all species are created different but equal;

    *That they are endowed, each one, with certain inalienable rights;

    *That among them are Freedom to Live, Freedom to Grow, and Freedom to pursue Happiness in their own style;

    *That to protect these God-given rights, social structures naturally emerge, basing their authority on the principles of love of God and respect for all forms of life;

    *That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of life, liberty, and harmony, it is the organic duty of the young members of that species to mutate, to drop out, to initiate a new social structure, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its power in such form as seems likely to produce the safety, happiness, and harmony of all sentient beings.

    Genetic wisdom, indeed, suggests that social structures long established should not be discarded for frivolous reasons and transient causes. The ecstasy of mutation is equally balanced by the pain. Accordingly all experience shows that members of a species are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, rather than to discard the forms to which they are accustomed.

    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, all pursuing invariably the same destructive goals, threaten the very fabric of organic life and the serene harmony of the planet, it is the right, it is the organic duty to drop out of such morbid covenants and to evolve new loving social structures.

    Such has been the patient sufferance of the freedom-loving peoples of this earth, and such is now the necessity which constrains us to form new systems of government.

    The history of the white, menopausal, mendacious men now ruling the planet earth is a history of repeated violation of the harmonious laws of nature, all having the direct object of establishing a tyranny of the materialistic aging over the gentle, the peace-loving, the young, the colored. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to the judgement of generations to come.

    *These old, white rulers have maintained a continuous war against other species of life, enslaving and destroying at whim fowl, fish, animals and spreading a lethal carpet of concrete and metal over the soft body of earth.

    *They have maintained as well a continual state of war among themselves and against the colored races, the freedom-loving, the gentle, the young. Genocide is their habit.

    *They have instituted artificial scarcities, denying peaceful folk the natural inheritance of earth’s abundance and God’s endowment.

    *They have glorified material values and degraded the spiritual.

    *They have claimed private, personal ownership of God’s land, driving by force of arms the gentle from passage on the earth.

    *In their greed they have erected artificial immigration and customs barriers, preventing the free movement of people.

    *In their lust for control they have set up systems of compulsory education to coerce the minds of the children and to destroy the wisdom and innocence of the playful young.

    *In their lust for power they have controlled all means of communication to prevent the free flow of ideas and to block loving exchanges among the gentle.

    *In their fear they have instituted great armies of secret police to spy upon the privacy of the pacific.

    *In their anger they have coerced the peaceful young against their will to join their armies and to wage murderous wars against the young and gentle of other countries.

    *In their greed they have made the manufacture and selling of weapons the basis of their economies.

    *For profit they have polluted the air, the rivers, the seas.

    *In their impotence they have glorified murder, violence, and unnatural sex in their mass media.

    *In their aging greed they have set up an economic system which favors age over youth.

    *They have in every way attempted to impose a robot uniformity and to crush variety, individuality, and independence of thought.

    *In their greed, they have instituted political systems which perpetuate rule by the aging and force youth to choose between plastic conformity or despairing alienation.

    *They have invaded privacy by illegal search, unwarranted arrest, and contemptuous harassment.

    *They have enlisted an army of informers.

    In their greed they sponsor the consumption of deadly tars and sugars and employ cruel and unusual punishment of the possession of life-giving alkaloids and acids.

    *They never admit a mistake. They unceasingly trumpet the virtue of greed and war. In their advertising and in their manipulation of information they make a fetish out of blatant falsity and pious self-enhancement. Their obvious errors only stimulate them to greater error and noisier self-approval.

    *They are bores.

    *They hate beauty.

    *They hate sex.

    *They hate life.

    We have warned them from time to time to their inequities and blindness. We have addressed every available appeal to their withered sense of righteousness. We have tried to make them laugh. We have prophesied in detail the terror they are perpetuating. But they have been deaf to the weeping of the poor, the anguish of the colored, the rocking mockery of the young, the warnings of their poets. Worshipping only force and money, they listen only to force and money. But we shall no longer talk in these grim tongues.

    We must therefore acquiesce to genetic necessity, detach ourselves from their uncaring madness and hold them henceforth as we hold the rest of God’s creatures – in harmony, life brothers, in their excess, menaces to life.

    We, therefore, God-loving, peace-loving, life-loving, fun-loving men and women, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the Universe for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name and by the Authority of all sentient beings who seek gently to evolve on this planet, solemnly publish and declare that we are free and independent, and that we are absolved from all Allegiance to the United States Government and all governments controlled by the menopausal, and that grouping ourselves into tribes of like-minded fellows, we claim full power to live and move on the land, obtain sustenance with our own hands and minds in the style which seems sacred and holy to us, and to do all Acts and Things which independent Freemen and Freewomen may of right do without infringing on the same rights of other species and groups to do their own thing.

    And for the support of this Declaration of Evolution with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, and serenely confident of the approval of generations to come, in whose name we speak, do we now mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor.

  • Steve the Cynic

    “The only thing wrong with these protestors is that they don’t have guns.”

    That is what has me worried– when clashing ideologies take their conflict out of the realm of words and electioneering and resort to violence.

  • Steve the Cynic

    That was a hilarious bit of parody, TimMn. Thanks for sharing it.

  • Josie

    Why is it ok for police to brutalize citizen protesters, ever? Where is the freedom and liberty that we are supposed to have as United States citizens? I think the issues brought up by this rally are right on and I want to support it and have a voice and yet if I go down there I may be maced or beaten or jailed. I have a family to take care of. It’s a shame that I feel afraid of the people who were hired and elected to protect and serve. I wish we could take our country back from the rich who have bought it from us. Not sure how. The occupy plan seems like the first step toward revolution. What a bloody mess this could turn out to be. Just look at Greece…that could be us in time. Wake up America! Be a patriot by giving back all your rights? I am very angry and disappointed. Is it true that I could be considered a “homegrown terrorist” by saying these things? Thanks a lot Obama/Bush.

  • Darlene

    To all who claim Marxism, and “freeloading liberal college students” are the only driving forces behind these occupy wallstreet movements- Give Me A Break!!

    The tea party-ers are just as out-raged by the bailouts to the banks, why are they called patriots?

    Why should we fear an ‘elite in government’ if we have a healthy democracy? I fear far more the privatization of our nation and the power of super corporations accountable to no one, no laws but their own, and the power to supercede government’s laws through such global Free Trade structures as GATT, NAFTA and the like. All of these operate on no ideology other than increasing profits across borders even while individual mobility across borders is increasingly restricted. The global corporations are making RECORD profits in the midst of economic crisis for people and governments world wide!

    Democracy is not capitalism. Capitalism is not democracy.

  • Occupy Together

    We are continuing to hear more and more reports of at least two groups of protesters, potentially over one or two hundred people a piece, who have been kettled, pepper-sprayed and/or arrested. We are still trying to get video evidence of this. We hope that this peaceful demonstration remains true to nonviolent resistance that is at the core of civil disobedience and hope that everyone remains safe. We do not condone or promote violence on either side and nothing will play to the media, corporations, and detractors of this movement more than violent protesters. In solidarity with Occupy Wall St.

    The smartphone is mightier than the A-bomb.

  • Pam Snopl

    My retirement funds are invested through Wall Street and I’ve worked all my life (i.e., I’m no “freeloader”), yet I totally support the OccupyMN movement. Wall Street, corporations, and the politicians they purchase are destroying the American Dream. This is the spark we need for a mass movement to rein in corporate power and get corporate cash out of campaigns. A hugely important goal should be to overturn Citizens United.

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  • Patrick

    Protest marches?? Ah, forget it. Too strenous. Let’s continue offering our kids as sacrifice into a world of shackles and chain that only money and lies can buy. Let’s keep fooling ourselves that we are not contrived impersonations. Let’s ignore that creepy translucent shadow of our shallow existence. And in the end let’s die gracefully, with that same painful artificial smile of deception smeared atop a sense of confused exploitation.