After one week, how is the state shutdown affecting you?

The state government shutdown is a week old. The Democratic governor and Republican leadership in the Legislature remain deadlocked over the budget deficit. Today’s Question: After one week, how is the state shutdown affecting you?

  • Catherine Day

    I hate seeing the road construction stopped on I-94, knowing workers are out of work and the construction still needs to get done before the snow flies again all to soon.

  • Chuck

    Not having a significant effect on me yet. Taking roads trips is a somewhat inconvient because of road construction halts and closed rest areas.

    My biggest concern is that our legislators seem to be cemented in place. The many workers laid off and facing lay off, projects delayed, and various other long term implications of this shut down are costing the State millions. Damage caused by vandals at State parks is a further burden.

    Seems strange to me that some folks don’t think we all should pay our fair share of taxes.

  • Duane

    Outside of making me completely disgusted with the political posturing of our 43% vote Governor, I have felt no change in my life as a retiree. I know there are many areas where shutdowns have occurred and affecting many people, but Gov. Dayton could have reacted earlier and avoided the shutdown. The legislature had passed the budget bills on April 6th and released them to the Governor six weeks before the close of the session. He waited until 2 to 3 days before the close of the session before he vetoed them all. I feel he wanted a shutdown to occur!

  • Katie

    The shutdown has affected work- projects on hold due to delayed permit review by the MPCA and state websites down so information is impossible to find. Also, I personally can think of six people I know in the neighborhood or parents at my son’s school who are laid off.

  • William

    I intern for a senator and would normally be at the state office building right now, but I am not given security clearance to go inside.

  • Larry M.
  • Richard in Minneapolis

    Enough already.

    I got laid off over a year ago and due to the technical nature of my job have not been able to find a replacement. I’ve learned to live cheaply and get by with the bare essentials, yet all I am hearing on MPR are sob stories from people who have been out of work a whole WEEK.

  • Steve the Cynic

    I’m sad that my state has altogether ceased being a national exemplar of good government. We need to go back to electing sensible centrists like Arne Carlson was and Margaret Anderson Kelliher would have been. (I still wonder if lots of Republicans didn’t vote for Dayton in the Democratic primary, thinking he’d be easier than Kelliher for Emmer to beat.)

  • linda

    If our life is good, our family has what it deems necessary for that good life, why would we begrudge others enough to eat, a place to sleep and live? Would the increase in taxes truly be that much of a hardship? All I can do is vote and, to be sure, I always vote. Incombents will receive NO support from me. that is my promise to these stiff-necked politicians. Enjoy your job, you could be unemployed very soon.

  • John

    State shutdown, what State shutdown?

  • LS

    I’m getting increasingly irritated with the right wing of the so called Republican Party. Just a few years ago they were a nuisance minority but now they’re pulling the wheels off the vehicle. Jobs & budget is not their goal… just damage civil society enough they can more freely deregulate enough to transfer more wealth from the many to the few. This represents a huge step forward in the conservative/business war against the American people. I’ve always wondered why working class conservatives increasingly vote against their own self interest. Low taxes = more jobs is a myth. What kool-aid did they drink?

  • Jim G

    Proud? Minnesota, the state that doesn’t work. The state that has destroyed it’s sense of community. The state that cuts billions from education and calls it reform. The state that leads all others in polarization and distrust. Proudly, we wear our stubborn pride.

    Minnesota, the state of minnie souls.

  • Lisa

    I work in healthcare. I have not felt directly affected at this point. HOWEVER, I know many people who are. Coworkers who have licenses that expire this summer are looking into getting licensed in other states (a significant burden in time & expense). My husband works in construction & may be laid off if state inspectors cannot do their jobs. The clientele with whom I work are also affected, as many of them depend on some state resources.

    It’s appalling that our state government 1) can’t come to some kind of compromise that includes both spending cuts and revenue increases; and 2) continue to take paychecks during a shutdown that resulted from their failure to do their jobs (roughly 2/3rds of them per MPR’s stats).

  • Jim G

    Proud of my state? Minnesota, the state that doesn’t work. The state that has lost its sense of community and working for the common good of all. The state that cuts billions from education and health and social service appropriations and calls it reform. The state that is in search of its soul. Proud of my state… that depends on what kind of state we become.

  • scott

    I can’t believe that there are elected officials that have chosen to still get paid while their inaction has caused such an impact on the people that gave them their jobs. I hope people remember this during the next election . I would be fired if I didn’t do the job I was hired to do.

  • http://www.onemomentonelife.org/ Theresa

    I worked for the State during the first shut down. At that time I was employed by the MN Dept of Human Services. My husband works for the Dept of Education. Two years ago I became very ill and have since become completely disabled. I receive treatments every two weeks that exceed 40,000. We are very fortunate to still have insurance, but there are many costs not covered. Three of our 7 daughters still live at home. It is difficult for me to “complain” knowing that so many are suffering. I understand first hand – from my years of working in the county with public assistance as well as year of working at the state – that there are many out there that have NO options in times such as these. But the impact to our family is great. My husband is doing what he can – working as a handyman doing odd jobs – but it is a temporary fix at best. To listen to the news and hear that our government continues to go backwards is extremely discouraging. We live in Wisconsin – so this hopeless situation seems even MORE out of our control. These are very sad days, to say the least.

  • Snyder

    Um, Duane. Your facts are wrong. When the Legislature sends a bill to the Governor, he has three days to sign or veto it. So there’s no way he sat on any budget bills for six weeks.

    What actually happened was the Legislature sent some budget bills to the Governor, he vetoed them and then instead of working with him to find a compromise, they goofed around with silly Constitutional amendment foolishness for several weeks and then scraped together more lousy budget bills that they knew wouldn’t pass muster with the Governor at the end of the session.

    And then instead of negotiating and compromising since the session ended, the Legislature has rejected seven(7!) proposals by the Governor to resolve the budget impasse without making any offers of their own. This shutdown is fully and completely the fault of the MNGOP, not that they care one iota about who they are hurting.

  • James

    I’m with John,,, What shut down?

    There should be public floggings of each party (two per day) of our elected officials until this impasse has been resolved. Plus, a 2X pay cut per day of no resolve.

    DTOM

  • Jamison

    My Metro Transit route is an express to downtown St. Paul. The route has been less than half full sometimes this week. Granted the holiday weekend hasn’t helped. However there are bus stops near State office buildings now where no one gets on.

    I know that Metro Transit has said that they will need to cut routes if the shutdown goes on much longer, and I’m pretty much betting that my express route will be cut, since it’s ridership now makes it much less attractive to keep in operation.

  • Amy

    My husband and I both work for the state and have been laid off because our jobs are deemed non-critical. We have completely pulled back any discretionary spending (including canceling a vacation scheduled in late August), pulled our son out of daycare, and are getting concerned about our ability to pay our bills because we have no idea when this will end.

    We are directly affected by the shutdown, but our actions because of the shutdown affect many others indirectly. The ripples are far, even though many may not be feeling them yet.

  • Marilyn Lundberg

    We are in a condo without a working elevator. MN law requires elevator upgrades by Jan. 2012. Our elevator went out to comply with the law June 13 and was to be running July 18. The work is on schedule, but THERE ARE NO STATE INSPECTORS TO OK THE WORK. This means we don’t know when we will have an elevator. My husband is in a wheel chair and we were lucky to be able to rent a ground floor unit. There are several people in their 90s on high floors. This repair is a tremendous burden. The cost is high both financially and physically. The repair is required by the state and now the state is adding to the tremendous burden.

  • Zebulun

    It has made my job search much more difficult, as I no longer have access to the state workforce centers. And on the weekends, instead of staying in Minnesota, I take my family to state parks in North Dakota.

    Conservative always talk about how high taxes make people move somewhere else. That isn’t what pushes people away. This government shutdown is the kind of thing that pushes people (and businesses) away. We are losing social capital.

  • Jim

    My wife and I both work for the State and are laid off. Luckily we have very little debt so the unemployment will cover all of our bills. That said, I am constantly worried about some of the people that work for me. I know many of them, especially some of the newer employees, are going through a very tough time. I’m keeping in touch with some of them during the shutdown and it’s not looking good for a lot of them.

    My employees are in a very skilled field, accounting, with a fairly strong job market. We have a fairly high turnover under normal conditions due to offers from private companies. If this goes on more than a month or two I really worry about how many of the experienced employees will be coming back.

    I will say that the administration went out of its way to help by offering the Memorandum of Understanding to the unions before the shutdown. It extends insurance coverage for all employees instead of the original set of employees with more than 3 years of service. Without that provision a lot of my employees would be losing health insurance for their families.

  • Russ

    Keeping our state open is their job, they have failed and should be fired! Pure and simple.

  • Sara

    The only change is an increased disgust with the completely intransigent Republicans. Their unbelievable immoveablity while so many are hurting in Minnesota is unconscionable. They dismiss reasonable solutions out of hand, and, I am beginning to think, out of a misguided desire to put party and power before people.

  • suzie

    For the next week the shutdown won’t affect us too much as we are taking our vacation dollars and going out of state.

    A suggestion to end this mess is to have these budget meeting between the governor and the republican bosses televised. There could be two cameras in the room – one on each party and a microphone at each persons seating area. At the beginning of each session, each person there would have to give their name, what party they represent and how much they are being paid for that session. The results of these negotiations are of great importance to the citizens of Minnesota and should be considered something like a public meeting. And why would these people want to “hide” what they are doing?

  • suzie

    For the next week the shutdown won’t affect us too much as we are taking our vacation dollars and going out of state.

    A suggestion to end this mess is to have these budget meeting between the governor and the republican bosses televised. There could be two cameras in the room – one on each party and a microphone at each persons seating area. At the beginning of each session, each person there would have to give their name, what party they represent and how much they are being paid for that session. The results of these negotiations are of great importance to the citizens of Minnesota and should be considered something like a public meeting. And why would these people want to “hide” what they are doing?

  • Joanna

    The symbol of the shutdown for me is the vandalism in Afton Park: a group of people took delight in destroying something that belongs to all of us, and we can’t even repair it any time soon. The shutdown makes me feel as if a small group of organized vandals have attacked the state of Minnesota; they chortle with glee in the comments on these stories over the hardship and suffering of others; they taunt people who are anxious and frightened; they sneer at the destruction of our collective infrastructure and reputation. Why? I just cannot fathom the hatefulness, the absence of compassion, the vindictive rhetoric that seems to be heedless of the long-term damage to our home. What is more, their rationales are slogans that are seldom backed up by facts. A minority has decided that if they can’t dismantle our state one way, they will just smash it to bits, and we will all be left with the ruins.

  • Maria

    The lack of payment for childcare assistance is incredibly harmful to children, parents, and providers. I work at a small center licensed for 49 children about 85% of our families rely on child care assistance to make payments. Our mission is to serve low-income families in need. We are not willing to tell parents that they must pay the cost out of pocket or find someone else to care for their child. We know that they do not have the resources to pay and could be forced to quit their jobs.

    I know of many centers who have already closed or kicked out families for their inability to pay. We do not know how much longer we can hold on. If the shutdown goes past the end of the month, we will be forced to layoff employees and operate on a much smaller scale. This problem is not solely ours. Over 20,000 families receive childcare assistance through the state. Parents cannot go to work without a safe place (that they can afford) to send their children.

    For many families, child care assistance is what keeps them afloat in the struggle to reach self sufficiency. Without it, they may be forced back into situations of unemployment and poverty. This simply cannot continue for much longer before reaching a breaking point.

    This shutdown is affecting the most vulnerable people in our society and putting them in positions of absolute desperation. What a shame it is our elected officials have so hugely failed us.

  • Meg

    My morale as a Minnesotan is plummeting lower each day. Many will think that if we can last a week without a fully functioning government, what’s a month? The state is losing revenue each day and the pain of our neighbors who NEED to rely on certain services is only compounding. The cash reserves of organizations that serve our state will run out; families’ credit card balances will run up. At this rate, none of us in better off in the long run, folks!

    I only hope the Republican caucus will soon run out of excuses and acknowledge that stubborn ideology may make for an effective campaign strategy, but it is no way to legislate.

  • Sasha

    I agree with another commenter that my morale as a Minnesotan is taking hits every day.

    Everyone can point to parks closing, and of course the neediest Minnesotans will be the first hit by pain because they have no buffer.

    However, the shutdown, the length of the shutdown, and the proposed budgets are all a part of defining who Minnesotans will be. And all of the planning and resources that go into a state that improves quality of life and makes this place habitable and – actually – quite wonderful during my lifetime is on the chopping block.

    This makes me profoundly sad, and I guess I always thought that we were about the public good – about a society that tried to create equality, that made life better for everyone. We’re not broke as a state, we’ve veered away from acting as a community in favor of too many tax breaks and isolation.

    I’d like to think we can return to quality, but all I hear right now is selfishness and short-sightedness. It’s a terrible time to be a Minnesotan.

  • Terri Nowicki Smith

    The state is losing so much money during this shut down. We have no revenue coming in from lottery, state parks, MN Pass and many other revenue streams that affect our quality of life. The elected officials need to compromise IMMEDIATELY to get our state back in business. No one side is going to win all that they want…each side needs to agree to the lesser evil of having our good state be closed for business.

  • Ethan Manthey

    My more privilege friends are out of state jobs and without a place to camp on a beautiful weekend.

    My less privileged friends cannot rely on the non-profits that supported them because the state shut them down.

    One group is out of luck, the other is out on the street.

  • LJL

    I run a business where we rely on the State government to provide information that banks and lending agencies need to close on small business loans. Because of the government shutdown, we can no longer obtain the data we need, and therefore we can not complete our work, and subsequently banks can not complete loan transactions. The businesses needing the loans are left hanging. We are also looking at laying off staff.

    My daughter is a college student and was thrilled to be selected as a summer intern with the MDNR – she is now terminated. She needed the income from that job to pay for college – it is too late for her to find another job, and she is now faced with the possibility of not being able to go back to college.

    All for what?

    I have attempted to express my concern to my representatives with no response – they are listening to someone but clearly not to the people they are supposed to be representing. They do not support the vast majority of the business community and are directly killing jobs.

  • Matt C

    The two biggest problems for me is

    1. The HOV lanes along 394 don’t switch. Going to work in the morning takes significantly longer now.

    2. The state parks are closed.

    3. I can’t buy a fishing license for an upcoming BWCA trip.

  • Bruce

    I would like to say “What Shut Down”!

    But I was able to talk to my local repesentative and asked him why he wasn’t in St. Paul and all he could say was it was up to Mr. Dayton to call them back.

    No leadership from either side.

    What has happen Minnesota?

  • Peter

    The shutdown in Minnesota foreshadows a federal shutdown due to failure to negotiate a settlement on the federal debt limit. The common denominator is the myth that tax cuts and reduced services promote broad-based prosperity. Fortunately, ensuing bank failures and economic collapse also damage Swiss bank accounts and precious metals owned by the top one percent. They pay either way.

  • Mike in Saint Paul

    My drive to work is shorter because the road construction stopped. In the long run, I want to see less road construction and repairs so my commute stays short. If the roads eventually fail and bridges fall, well, I guess then we can make some repairs as necessary.

  • Ken M

    I have two close friends who are laid off due to the shutdown. I have hired them to do work that I would normally do myself. While I have a job, I have two kids in college and have had my salary frozen for the last two years and probably will see a decrease in the next two. Hiring these friends has made it hard on me financially; but they are worse off right now.

    Where are all these jobs the rich, that the GOP is so worried about, are supposed to be creating? The GOP shutdown has cost me more than even the 4% tax increase would over the next four years. I hope there are going to be a lot of job openings at the legislature next fall. I plan to work hard to create as many among Republicans as they did this spring among the middle class.

  • Anna Peterson

    I’ve lost faith that the representatives are truly working to uphold the views of their MN constituents. I don’t think I’m the only Minnesotan that believes there must be compromise on both sides of the aisle.

  • kim

    I tend to be on Richard’s side of the fence, concerning your state governments dilema.

    Being an outsider, out of state(r), I took a keen interest when I read of the prospect of a state government shutdown.

    It’s obvious to me, 2/3 of your residents appear to be at a complete loss in regards to self reliance. At this point, it should become obvious to ALL of your residents, that your reliance upon the GOVERNMENT for any or all portions of your daily existence speaks volumes about your lack of FREEDOM. Can anybody say at this point that ‘community’ and socialism are not one in the same term?

    It cannot be apparent only to me, that government workers who are now to rely soley upon unemployment compensation, at half their wages, and who apparently don’t seem to have the financial reserves to float them through this ordeal, have grossly overspent beyond their well compensated union means up to this point. Which would explain why when revenues to the state were cut, those in charge couldn’t fathom they had and are continuing to overspend beyond their means.

    Perhaps a well deserved pat on the back for your Governor at this point in time. For showing all your states public employees what it really feels like to work for a private company who moves your job overseas.

    Oh, I can see your pain. Now, you can feel firsthand, theirs.

    I”m still searching for a state worker (oh, heck, ANY government worker) in this country whose health care requires them to pay $6000 a year in premiums(family coverage), plus ALL their doctors visits, ER visits, prescriptions and anything other than preventive visits up to their $5,000 a year deductible per person, before the $3,000 a year coinsurance kicks in, making their out of pocket expenses $8,000 a year before Obama’s mandatory health insurance requirement starts to pay something. Co-pay? What pray tell is a Co-pay?

    Minnesota’s state government shut down.

    Who does it really affect? The self reliant?

    The free? Oh, yes, it does affect the free ride, doesn’t it?

  • kim

    I tend to be on Richard’s side of the fence, concerning your state governments dilema.

    Being an outsider, out of state(r), I took a keen interest when I read of the prospect of a state government shutdown.

    It’s obvious to me, 2/3 of your residents appear to be at a complete loss in regards to self reliance. At this point, it should become obvious to ALL of your residents, that your reliance upon the GOVERNMENT for any or all portions of your daily existence speaks volumes about your lack of FREEDOM. Can anybody say at this point that ‘community’ and socialism are not one in the same term?

    It cannot be apparent only to me, that government workers who are now to rely soley upon unemployment compensation, at half their wages, and who apparently don’t seem to have the financial reserves to float them through this ordeal, have grossly overspent beyond their well compensated union means up to this point. Which would explain why when revenues to the state were cut, those in charge couldn’t fathom they had and are continuing to overspend beyond their means.

    Perhaps a well deserved pat on the back for your Governor at this point in time. For showing all your states public employees what it really feels like to work for a private company who moves your job overseas.

    Oh, I can see your pain. Now, you can feel firsthand, theirs.

    I”m still searching for a state worker (oh, heck, ANY government worker) in this country whose health care requires them to pay $6000 a year in premiums(family coverage), plus ALL their doctors visits, ER visits, prescriptions and anything other than preventive visits up to their $5,000 a year deductible per person, before the $3,000 a year coinsurance kicks in, making their out of pocket expenses $8,000 a year before Obama’s mandatory health insurance requirement starts to pay something. Co-pay? What pray tell is a Co-pay?

    Minnesota’s state government shut down.

    Who does it really affect? The self reliant?

    The free? Oh, yes, it does affect the free ride, doesn’t it?

  • kim

    I tend to be on Richard’s side of the fence, concerning your state governments dilema.

    Being an outsider, out of state(r), I took a keen interest when I read of the prospect of a state government shutdown.

    It’s obvious to me, 2/3 of your residents appear to be at a complete loss in regards to self reliance. At this point, it should become obvious to ALL of your residents, that your reliance upon the GOVERNMENT for any or all portions of your daily existence speaks volumes about your lack of FREEDOM. Can anybody say at this point that ‘community’ and socialism are not one in the same term?

    It cannot be apparent only to me, that government workers who are now to rely soley upon unemployment compensation, at half their wages, and who apparently don’t seem to have the financial reserves to float them through this ordeal, have grossly overspent beyond their well compensated union means up to this point. Which would explain why when revenues to the state were cut, those in charge couldn’t fathom they had and are continuing to overspend beyond their means.

    Perhaps a well deserved pat on the back for your Governor at this point in time. For showing all your states public employees what it really feels like to work for a private company who moves your job overseas.

    Oh, I can see your pain. Now, you can feel firsthand, theirs.

    I”m still searching for a state worker (oh, heck, ANY government worker) in this country whose health care requires them to pay $6000 a year in premiums(family coverage), plus ALL their doctors visits, ER visits, prescriptions and anything other than preventive visits up to their $5,000 a year deductible per person, before the $3,000 a year coinsurance kicks in, making their out of pocket expenses $8,000 a year before Obama’s mandatory health insurance requirement starts to pay something. Co-pay? What pray tell is a Co-pay?

    Minnesota’s state government shut down.

    Who does it really affect? The self reliant?

    The free? Oh, yes, it does affect the free ride, doesn’t it?

  • TMJ

    Working with the poor and unemployed, I am deeply impacted. Even though, my hours have been reduced by half and it will be hard to make ends meet. I am fairing far better than most. What is even harder to endure is the frightened, hallowed look in the young man’s eyes, that I was working with, this morning. Desperately needing help, but had to be turned away because the program he qualifies for, is not deemed a necessary part of Government.

    That look will have deeper impact me than my lack of a full paycheck. It is my hope that the legislature will find a balanced approach and will be inspired to find a win/win solution. I for one am tired of all the finger pointing and it’s my way or the highway rhetoric. All of this has become an appalling demonstration of a lack of quality leadership at its worst.

  • Joe

    This single-minded behavior from Republicans isn’t new behavior. They’ve been shoving power down others’ throats since we invaded Iraq, without concern for life or welfare outside their narrow definition what’s good for them. Thanks to Republicans, Minnesota is the Can’t-do State. Their intransigence reflects their disrespect for anyone who doesn’t bow to their power. This isn’t politics as we’ve known it. It’s a sea change and compromise is drowning. They’re testing their power, not their ideas; asserting force at the expense of gov employees and all MN citizens, not honoring their duty to uphold citizens’ rights. We’ve paid for a government that has locked us out. We’ve elected officials who are penalizing us for electing them. They hide behind meaningless phrases like “The voters of Minnesota elected us to shrink government” as if Minnesotans as a group were as single-minded their simple-minded sound bites. Reporters who’ve lost the ability to think for themselves have taken to blaming Minnesotans for splitting government between Republicans and Democrats as if the shutdown were a natural consequence of electoral incompetence. There’s nothing natural about the shutdown–it’s an abberation caused by abuse of power, and it sure isn’t citizens who are abusing it. Blaming the electorate for the shutdown is like a comedian blaming the audience for not laughing. When you call yourself a comedian, your job is to make us laugh. If we’re not laughing, you ain’t funny. That is, you’ve been voted off the stage.

  • beep

    Here is the effect on one family I am involved with for care. Mother at 26 weeks pregnant was hit by a drunk driver, survived, but put her into labor and delivered a pre-term baby who required 2.5 months in the NICU and racked up a substantial medical bill well past their insurance coverage. Applies and receives state medical assistance plus home care for vent/trach management, PT/OT services, respite care, WIC, etc. Two other older sibs who need her time, fulltime job and still paying off the difference in medical costs from this first event. Medical assistance in the home stopped d/t shutdown, child needs 24/7 care, mom about to quit job, lose income to pay medical bills that are not her fault (car accident w/ uninsured drunk driver). She relies as a”lazy slob” apparantly on the gov’t for help, cough,sarcasm, cough. No compassion from you “limited gov’t” folks. Move elsewhere if you do not want to be part of a society who cares for all. I’ve lost no freedoms, only gained frustration from insensitive complainers who have never walked a mile in someone else’s shoes. I’ve many more similar stories based upon my career as a pediatrician, need more?

  • Steve

    I’m just on the trickle down side. I have had $60,000 or work canceled by state employees. It is not their fault. Thank God the venders of the product understand and are not going to hold them to the contract for the order.

    When will it end?

    Steve

  • DMox

    I wish it WAS effecting me! I wish it was effecting all of us. A shutdown, which is such a ridiculous thing to start with, should be just that. All of government should shut down. Let the politicians feel the pain, too. Let them feel actually responsible for all of the poor, the sick, the needy, instead of getting all of these “passes” by judges who rule certain things “essential.” Just like the Iraq War, only one class of people are actually feeling the pinch of the decisions made by those in power, and so, the debate is without sting for either side.

    As constituents, we should demand that the Governor & the Legislature meet everyday, outside, without the benefit of government purchased water, chairs or comfort, to hammer this out. If they want to shut down the government, make it a real shutdown, and make them suffer the same as the whole of their citizens.

  • Josh D.

    Judging by the comments above, its affecting me similarly to the entire group: its making me angry and more polarized. Which is ironic, because that’s what got us into this mess to begin with. Everyday I hear more news stories on the shutdown, every day it makes me more frustrated, more…well downright hateful towards my party of choice. It makes me and others that much more likely to vote the political extremes rather than the center. Because of this, the very small number of folks truly in the center (perhaps because they don’t really follow politics?) will continue to decide elections. The problem with that is the extreme folks on each side will have chosen the more extreme candidates on each side to run, thus further alienating the center.

  • wacootah

    A state government shutdown is a failure and national embarrassment. What’s the purpose of having a Governor and state legislature if they won’t do their jobs?

  • Amy G

    Oh Kim’s got an answer to everything! Especially that the 38k I make a year is ” well compensated union means up to this point”. Now there’s somebody I’d like to strangle right about now. I can’t even afford a foreclosure on that which is why at 39 I live with my mother, but enough about ignoramus’-they are why we are here-in the middle of shutdown-to begin with. I tend to hear the Richard’s more-the whole “been out of work a year, what are you complaining about?” which is why I’m not complaining. I planned to take this week off anyway-I’m just not getting paid for it now. That’s pretty much how the shutdown is affecting me. If I knew I was going to have the whole month off, I’d start painting the house. And if I was getting paid, I’d have called that contractor to start work on it. Thanks Mom for the “free ride”. At least mom’s are “liberal” enough to allow us to “live within our means”.

  • Steve the Cynic

    @Sara (writing at 10:01am, July 8)–

    You’re only “beginning” to think that? Haven’t you been paying attention?

  • stephanie

    i suppose i have yet to notice in any real sense…which makes me wonder what gets done in the first place?

  • KM

    i just don’t get it…..a balanced budget was submitted to Dayton weeks a go but he refused to sign it.

    During the election month he stated, ” I would never raise taxes on cigarettes as it would only hurt the poor. ” This week he stated he would like to see a smokers and alcohol tax…really? really? Why should we trust this man who never worked a full year in his life? His trust fund millions are safe in the Dakotas. How much does he pay in taxes? Why did George Soros vist him and suggest allowing the state shutdown was an exercise_ a trial run to see how it fared the DFL when our president lets the federal gov. shut down_ all to be used as a campaign ploy to smear the GOP?

    In the morning, Dayton is polite and affable and by late afternoon both sides refer to him as “unpredictable_ erratic.” His prescribed psychiatric meds may need adjusting?

    The MN shut down shows just how far the DFL or progressives will conspire to use all of us, our worries to only further their political powers.

    Obama and the DFL majority had two years to get a budget, to affect stopping fraud and abuse of government programs_ they did not do this.

    Th former DFL Senate and House and Obama had full control to address the deficit but instead, the records show all they did was increase the spending of tax payer’s money to the tune of three times greater! President Obama and Dayton are doing the same dance. it is all a play that the mainstream media refuses to discuss.

    Their ploy is to use the rich as the villains yet , they forget that the so called rich are the ones that risk their capital for a chance at a decent return and invest in companies so companies will grow.

    They pay their fair share in taxes. The top 5% of income earners pay over 60% of all income taxes to the state!. While 47% of wage earners pay zero….so who exactly isn’t paying their FAIR share?

    Obama and Dayton are using class warfare tactics in the media while supporting their own favored wealthy contributors. Did anyone known that former speaker of the house Pelosi made over 2.4 million more_ since Obama was elected? How odd in such a tight economy.

    If paying more taxes is the answer then why don’t the super wealthy DFL’ers voluntarily pay half their income to the state to help out? Answer: They like ordering others to pay but never themselves.

    The DFL has controlled the state of MN for the past 12 years or so and what have they done that has ed us to this point? Increased spending and misappropriated tax revenue for pet projects that really belonged to the private sector. With MN shutdown, many independents are now seeing just how deceitful Dayton and the DFL has been.

    EACH day Dayton refuses to accept a balanced budget without raising taxes, as was offered last month, takes more voters away from the DFL party.

  • Van

    The longer the shutdown stays, the more independents that will not support the DFL in 2012.

    Dayton was given a balanced budget but_ he wanted to spend even more! I wish I never voted for him.

  • Cathy

    At first, all I noticed was that the rest areas were closed down on the way up north. no big deal.

    Then I saw that the famlies I work with have been severely impacted; unable to get assistance, childcare so they could go to work, etc. That’s a big deal.

    Then I read about all the state senators and representatives collecting PAY when they are not working while their constiuents go without pay through no fault of their own, and I saw RED! I’ve made a copy of the list of those who are still taking paychecks, and I will not support any of them (Democrat or Republican) when they run for election.

    What a disgrace!

  • val green

    It is unbelievable to me that the citizens of this state do not realize this shutdown is COSTING the state millions of dollars. There is plenty of blame on both sides but the republican stance of protecting the wealthiest is a huge stumbling block. We also have a very narrow base on sales taxes which could be expanded (to items such as clothing). This debate is a foreshadow of the upcoming national debate.

    This country needs a viable third party, one that is willing to end many of the entitlements (such as continuing to give oil companies subsidies at the same time they are incredibly profitable).

  • MS

    Time to update this question. It’s been nearly three weeks since the shutdown started. The avalanche of consequences has hit critical mass: it now includes less access to beer! When it’s finally over, government offices, nonprofits, and companies will be spending a lot of time and money to pick up the pieces. Is this how we want to spend our time and money? Perhaps this is the first lesson in civics that many people have had since the sixth grade. On the other hand, some people have may drawn no lessons from this, and just believe they have another reason to get more angry.