Rioter: ‘I’m getting my taxes back’

SkyNews’ Mark Stone challenged looters in London to explain why they were rioting and found that just about any behavior can be excused by making it about taxes.

Reality, of course, is different. This 89-year-old barber didn’t collect any taxes from the people who destroyed his store and livelihood. And what on earth would you loot from a barber shop? Shaving cream?

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  • lucy

    Photo number 8:

    The Saxons would be proud to know that their design of shields are still used in this advanced society.

  • Octaneboy

    Video was posted by “MarkStoneSkyNews,” which leads me to presume he’s a legit journalist working for an established entity. That makes it all the more appealing to me that he’s passing overt judgement on the looters. It beats the couched editorially-based bias of most US news outlets.

  • http://ofbuckleyandbeatles.wordpress.com/ Drae

    This is real economic terrorism. Not elected leaders having a vigorous debate on fiscal policy, but this.

  • Jim Shapiro

    The problem with violence as a tool of social change is that it is inevitably used by thoughtless tools, and ends up harming the innocent. Always.

  • lucy

    @drae

    //This is real economic terrorism

    http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/07/7292281-the-sad-truth-behind-london-riot

    “Will the government pay attention to the social issues underlying the anger?

    Would anyone care at all if there had not been violence?”

  • http://ofbuckleyandbeatles.wordpress.com/ Drae

    @ lucy – it’s a little late to ask that question after the fact. And I’m not sure what your point is. That violence is acceptable if it serves social ends?

  • lucy

    @ Drae,

    I am sorry, I wasn’t implying in the least bit that violence is acceptable.

    I was merely saying that there was reason behind what they did. No hope, endless poverty and a government who would not listen to them until they took drastic means.

    My point was saying this is where the energy generated from and it is never too late to find the root of a problem and try to make a change.

  • http://ofbuckleyandbeatles.wordpress.com/ Drae

    Lucy – I did a little digging last night and found a time line of the riots from the BBC. This originally started as a group of 300 people seeking “justice” for Mr Duggan & his family.

    After 3 hours, bottles started flying and cars were torched.

    This is hardly a case where a community had a grievance, demonstrated, and were ignored.

    And, actually, the UK government has been discussing how to stimulate job growth, so they are listening in a sense. They realize their people need jobs, and they’re working on a plan. It didn’t take any violence to bring this policy into being. (Prince William also has taken a strong interest in homeless youth, so the future King is listening.)

    But I’ve also read that this London neighborhood had a history of racial tension with police, and I think that by accepting the notion these riots are economic takes away from Mr. Duggan’s death, which instigated these riots.

    So is the root of the problem economic or racial? Is the problem lack of jobs or police indifference and racism? Personally, I think the economic excuses are a disservice to Mr Duggan.

  • lucy

    ///But I’ve also read that this London neighborhood had a history of racial tension with police, and I think that by accepting the notion these riots are economic takes away from Mr. Duggan’s death, which instigated these riots.

    I think you could safely say that it is a combination of all of it. Another pound of bad news heaped on your plate.

    I have read several comments that “they (rioters)feel entitled, they don’t know how to work, they live on eternal unemployment”

    These kids grew up in the conditions of having much less than and who knows what kinds of education they were offered and what kinds of parenting they had?

    Have you grown up in poverty? Have you lived in poverty from more that a couple months? Have you had to stand in line for welfare or food benefits? Have you ever met a teen whose parent didn’t give a damn about their whereabouts during the day or night?

    Violence is not right but I think these kids have had enough and do not know the right way to express it. They are expressing their anger in the only way they know.

    //So is the root of the problem economic or racial? Is the problem lack of jobs or police indifference and racism?

    E. All the above

  • http://ofbuckleyandbeatles.wordpress.com/ Drae

    “Have you grown up in poverty? Have you lived in poverty from more that a couple months? Have you had to stand in line for welfare or food benefits? Have you ever met a teen whose parent didn’t give a damn about their whereabouts during the day or night? ”

    Yes, yes, yes and yes but I’ve never used it as justification for violence.

    But, I fear there will be much worse economic & racially driven violence in Europe in the months and years ahead. Let us hope I’m wrong.

  • lucy

    //”Have you grown up in poverty? Have you lived in poverty from more that a couple months? Have you had to stand in line for welfare or food benefits? Have you ever met a teen whose parent didn’t give a damn about their whereabouts during the day or night? ”

    Yes, yes, yes and yes but I’ve never used it as justification for violence.

    So tell me Drae,

    Humans have a tendency to get angry and sometimes violent when they are forced to live in oppression, small spaces, topped with lack of resources to get out of that predicament. (Psychological studies done on these kinds of situations)

    If you have survived all those kinds of symptoms of poverty without resorting to violence in your youth, what do you think made the difference between your outcome and these youths from London?