Same-sex marriage opponents criticized for linking other side to Nazi propaganda

A group pushing to legalize same-sex marriage in Minnesota is criticizing their opponents for linking same-sex marriage to propaganda in Nazi Germany.

The chair of Minnesota for Marriage, which is working to defeat state efforts to legalize same-sex marriage, released information to pastors urging them to speak out against same-sex marriage on April 7th. The information was released on the website, Minnesota Pastors for Marriage, which is a partner organization for Minnesota for Marriage.

In their documents to pastors, the group released talking points suggesting that “there is no gay gene.” It went on to criticize gay rights groups and the media for promoting what it says is debunked science.

“Third, there is a definitive problem. Homosexuals claim: “We were born this way; it is in our genes; God made us gay.” They cite old “gay gene” studies predominantly conducted by researchers who are homosexuals; studies that have been repudiated by credible research.

Yet these same biased and discredited studies have been widely publicized by the liberal media as true and factual. They essentially practice Joseph Goebel’s (sic) Nazi philosophy of propaganda, which is basically this: Tell a lie long enough and loud enough and eventually most mindless Americans will believe it.”

Jake Loesch, a spokesman for Minnesotans United for All Families, says he has deep problems with the claims.

“This just clearly shows that the folks at Minnesota for Marriage have no interest in a civil dialogue. They have no interest in an honest conversation about marriage. Making claims that anyone in any way is comparable to Nazi tactics is disgusting. It’s appalling and has no place in public square or in public discussion about what marriage is,” Loesch said.

The criticism comes as Minnesotans United for All Families is lobbying the Minnesota Legislature to legalize same-sex marriage.

A spokeswoman for Minnesota for Marriage did not respond to messages for comment. In October, Minnesota for Marriage disavowed a pastor’s claim linking same-sex marriage to suppression efforts in Nazi Germany.

UPDATE:

Tonight Minnesota for Marriage spokesperson Autumn Leva sent this statement in response:

“This is simply a desperate attempt to distract Minnesotans in order to convince them that children don’t really need a mother and a father. This distraction just exposes the fact that they have been saying the people of Minnesota have given them a mandate to legalize gay ‘marriage’, when all the polls show that they didn’t. This is a smokescreen to cover the fact that they said nothing would change if the amendment were defeated when in fact they are trying to force gay ‘marriage’ on all Minnesotans. And, it’s a perfect example of the attacks on religious freedoms that people can expect if gay ‘marriage’ is legalized in Minnesota.

The reality is that there are many, many people of faith who believe based on teachings from the Bible, the Torah, the Koran, and other religious texts that marriage is between one man and one woman. They have every right to their beliefs, and to preach on their beliefs. This attempt to discredit MN for Marriage is really a looking glass that allows Minnesotans to see that those attempting to force gay ‘marriage’ on this state do not, in fact, care about people’s deeply held beliefs. They are calling into question these pastors’ beliefs as evidenced by their calling out specific Scriptures with which they disagree and the fact that the gay ‘marriage’ bill only protects the religious freedoms of people when they’re in the 4 walls of a church building. That’s not enough to protect the freedom of Minnesotans to practice their religion.”

  • Steve W.

    That’s really not much of a response. Claiming that MN United is using this as a “smokescreen” is in itself actually a smokescreen by M4M. None of M4M’s claims in their statement are reflected in what MN United has done or stated. Pretty petty on their part.

  • Beth-Ann

    If you can stomach it, reading the website sponsored by the Minnesota Family Council and Minnesota for Marriage is a revelation. The material is presented in a format to encourage its use in sermons and bulletins (there’s even a

    PowerPoint). Sadly it’s a bunch of half-truths cobbled together to scare people into continuing to discriminate against their fellow Minnesotans. Christians should expect better especially during Holy Week.

  • BebeH

    These people pose as ‘ideal Christians’ when in fact they only abide by God’s ‘rules’ when it works in their favor! They clearly don’t understand ‘Love thy neighbor’, ‘thou shall not hate’ and the 7 deadly sins! Spewing their wretched bile and filth all over their Lord they so love and admire. I feel bad for their children, having to grow up knowing that their parents would not consider them human based on one mere aspect of who they are, who they love. These anti-gays preaching ‘God’s word’ are more like Hitler than anyone, hating people who are different. Trying to continue oppression after years and years of Christians, African American’s, Women, Jewish people and many others. Continuing unnecessary hate

  • Gordon near Two Harbors

    “Tell a lie long enough, and eventually most mindless Americans will believe it”. Well, isn’t that how religious indoctrination is spread? There is a reason that kids often start getting religious “education” at age three, while not getting an real science education until age 13 (at least).

  • Bruce Honnigford

    The issue goes farther than “one man one woman” – many religious espouse this because they believe gay people are an abomination and should be smited. The Nazi rhetoric is a classic tactic of the abuser accusing the victim of what they in fact are guilty of. It is further spiteful given that the Nazis targeted homosexuals during the 3rd Reich. Their argument is somewhat misplaced because it desperately tries to convince people that homosexuality is a choice which is irrelevant because most people don’t think it’s wrong. Since they cannot use the bible as justification to convince people of this, they try to co-opt science to confuse people. Here again, as in the issue of evolution, they claim they have the real science and the sound evidence junk when they have no standing. These are professional liars and manipulators. They are smug and confident when telling the tallest tales and the biggest lies.

  • RalfW

    The complete lack of accountability, and in fact resorting to a counter-attack, in Ms. Leva’s response says a lot about Minnesotans for Marriage.

    I guess they now stand behind a tactic they apologized for less than six months ago?

    Even if Ms. Leva doesn’t feel like her organization should apologize to those of us working for marriage for committed loving couples, she should consider how this endorsed sermon prep packet impacts our friends and neighbors in the Jewish community in Minnesota.

  • wendy leigh

    Projection/Flipping. It involves taking whatever underhanded tactic you’re using and then accusing your opponent of doing it to you first.